Jon Jones is declining, the end is near

[KOPPE]

Jon Jones has looked worse in each of his last 3 fights Coincidence? i think not

vs Smith: could have LOST VIA DQ
vs. Santos: SPLIT DECISION even with 2 blown out knees, Jones couldnt do sh*t
vs. Reyes: won by UD but OUT-STRUCK, knocked down, and horrible judging.

based on the tape I've watched, he's noticeably slower, less explosive, and powerful. His wrestling looks regressed. The man who thoroughly outwrestled DC couldn't take down a one-legged Santos once.
The Reyes fight showed a visible regression in chain wrestling and he gave up on attempts quickly, relative to before. As for striking - significantly less volume. The stats say it all, but watch the fights for yourself. He used to throw combinations, unpredictable strikes, he was good at keeping the opponent guessing. These days? You don't see a single combination in his last 3 fights. None of those tricky "look low, kick high" shenanigans.

Jones initially built his tainted legacy from an era where LHW's were shorter. 5'11-6'1. Smith is 6'4, Santos is a thick 6'4, Reyes is 6'5. Much of his game stems from distance and using his length to not get hit.
dont want to get into the juicy juice but he popped for Gus and Smith, two fights he dominated. He did not pop for Santos and Reyes. At a certain point, correlation becomes so certain it reasonably indicates causation.

he knows he is on borrowed time and a loss is inevitable if he keeps fighting.
guys like Prochazka would literally kill him, i just couldn't see him beating all three of Jan, Jiri and Rakic.
he was smart to move to HW - if he is going to lose, only losing to Francis(and collecting 30m lul) or Gane will keep his reputation intact.
we've already seen moving up and losing doesn't affect perceptions of you (see Adesanya v Jan) so there's nothing to lose, everything to gain going to HW and nothing to gain in staying at LHW.

 

[Shaddows]

Jesus, Jon haters are relentless.




I mean, keep praying he will lose, but do so silently!
No one likes a whinner!

 

[KOPPE]

Jesus, Jon haters are relentless.




I mean, keep praying he will lose, but do so silently!
No one likes a whinner!

WOW! That is a great argument! How impressive.

 

[Kvothe_the_kingkiller]

He’s probably earned upward of $50m.

I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he’s willing to fight once more for $30m, or not at all. But nothing in between. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Dana chooses not to say yes.

He told the cops in his last arrest that he gets punched in the head for a living and is forgetful these days…..

 

[Randy Fandy Fo Fanders]

Fuckin haters.

and every single one of you will watch his next fight. Because he entertains you!

props to the GOAT.

 

[Herwald]

Jon rises to the level of his competition and he got progressively more bored by the challenges. The perception that he's declined stems from that.

I think this whole HW talk is just a distraction. Either he took time off to just fuck around from boredom or, well, last time he popped, he took time off to bodybuild and now he's taken time off to bodybuild, so I don't know. Some of the rumors out there ring kinda true to me.

And if having a reach advantage was so crucial at LHW, more lanklets would be at the top, but they're not. So I'm not feeling the quasi-attempt at discrediting the earlier day talent who Jon beat.

 

[John Spartan]

what goes up must come down, but yes ill watch every fight he is in lol cant deny hes the best LHW ever, but thats def a long time on top and hes sat out so much

 

[kibz]

Active or not, he has been in the UFC for 13 years. If he got completely dominated and lost in his next 2 fights…at this point, big whoop.

Based on his previous self sabotaging behavior and his own comments about giving himself an excuse if he lost (partying), I’m sure he has already envisioned losing many times.

Him losing probably means more to you than him at this point.

As far as I’m concerned he’s retired and trolling ppl.

 

[datfnguy]

Jon Jones has looked worse in each of his last 3 fights Coincidence? i think not

vs Smith: could have LOST VIA DQ
vs. Santos: SPLIT DECISION even with 2 blown out knees, Jones couldnt do sh*t
vs. Reyes: won by UD but OUT-STRUCK, knocked down, and horrible judging.

based on the tape I've watched, he's noticeably slower, less explosive, and powerful. His wrestling looks regressed. The man who thoroughly outwrestled DC couldn't take down a one-legged Santos once.
The Reyes fight showed a visible regression in chain wrestling and he gave up on attempts quickly, relative to before. As for striking - significantly less volume. The stats say it all, but watch the fights for yourself. He used to throw combinations, unpredictable strikes, he was good at keeping the opponent guessing. These days? You don't see a single combination in his last 3 fights. None of those tricky "look low, kick high" shenanigans.

Jones initially built his tainted legacy from an era where LHW's were shorter. 5'11-6'1. Smith is 6'4, Santos is a thick 6'4, Reyes is 6'5. Much of his game stems from distance and using his length to not get hit.
dont want to get into the juicy juice but he popped for Gus and Smith, two fights he dominated. He did not pop for Santos and Reyes. At a certain point, correlation becomes so certain it reasonably indicates causation.

he knows he is on borrowed time and a loss is inevitable if he keeps fighting.
guys like Prochazka would literally kill him, i just couldn't see him beating all three of Jan, Jiri and Rakic.
he was smart to move to HW - if he is going to lose, only losing to Francis(and collecting 30m lul) or Gane will keep his reputation intact.
we've already seen moving up and losing doesn't affect perceptions of you (see Adesanya v Jan) so there's nothing to lose, everything to gain going to HW and nothing to gain in staying at LHW.

Who is this Jon Jones you speak of? The only Jon Jones I know of is a former fighter who gave up his belt, turned down ever fight offered to him and decided to put on some old man weight.

 

[Shaddows]

WOW! That is a great argument! How impressive.

Thank you.
How about this: HE NEVER FUCKING LOST!

That alone kills all your asinine thoughts about him.

Win by an inch, win by a mile. It's the same. The pay is the same.
So he merely quieted down and does not feel the need to impress haters anymore. So he just does enough to eek out a win and go home with a paycheck that YOU contributed by paying to see him lose. No need to be flashy or train too much.
Despite your crying, all the guys you mentioned LOST to him.

The only one that was conceivably a bad decision was Gus (first fight). And he beat Gus decisively in the rematch.

Hell, I am not even saying that I like the guy. I don't.
But he is indeed one of the best fighters ever despite your hate and if you can't see that, shame on you.

So keep trying, keep hating, keep praying he'll lose. Or that he won't fight ever again.
But crying for past fights (where he won) and making up stupid accusations is just asinine and tiresome. I mean, fuck! The dude has not fought in years and you can't shut up about it???

 

[accolyte1022]

Jesus, Jon haters are relentless.




I mean, keep praying he will lose, but do so silently!
No one likes a whinner!

TS def. makes some..... odd threads.

 

[I Lie To Girls]

He’s probably earned upward of $50m.

I wouldn’t at all be surprised if he’s willing to fight once more for $30m, or not at all. But nothing in between. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Dana chooses not to say yes.

He told the cops in his last arrest that he gets punched in the head for a living and is forgetful these days…..

That was the coke and liquor talking. And the need to get out of a situation he's all too familiar with.

 

[I Lie To Girls]

Thank you.
How about this: HE NEVER FUCKING LOST!

That alone kills all your asinine thoughts about him.

Win by an inch, win by a mile. It's the same. The pay is the same.
So he merely quieted down and does not feel the need to impress anymore. So he just does enough to eek out a win and go home with a paycheck that YOU contributed paying to see him lose. No need to be flashy or train too much.
Despite your crying, all the guys you mentioned LOST to him.

The only one that was conceivably a bad decision was Gus (first fight). And he beat Gus decisively in the rematch.

Hell, I am not even saying that I like the guy. I don't.
But he is indeed one of the best fighters ever despite your hate and if you can't see that, shame on you.

So keep trying, keep hating, keep praying he lose. Or that he won't fight ever again.
But crying for past fights (where he won) and making up stupid accusations is just asinine and tiresome. I mean, fuck! The dud has not fought in years and you can't shut up about it???

GOAT TS' cope is showing.

 

[Iron Nick]

As for striking - significantly less volume.

Vs Teixeira: 138 of 236
Vs Gustafsson I: 134 of 217
Vs DC I: 92 of 178
VS OSP: 105 of 157
Vs DC II: 95 of 165
+ July 1st, 2015: USADA's partnership with the UFC went into effect +
Vs Smith: 125 of 167
Vs Santos 59 of 90
Vs Reyes: 104 of 166

... Jones has had the exact same volume against Smith and Reyes that he did against DC II, when he was on rocket fuel.
I'm not sure if he really declined as much, or if the competition and/or the testing is catching up with him.

EDIT: totally forgot to think about the fact that DC II didn't even go three full rounds, lol.

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Jesus, Jon haters are relentless.




I mean, keep praying he will lose, but do so silently!
No one likes a whinner!

I am a Jones hater too, but i am suprised to see Conor Nuthuggers, that are Jones Haters. I personally hate them both.

 

[HP_Nut]

I think prime Jones would've finished those 3 guys, so yea, I do think he's on the decline despite still being relatively young. Being prime isn't always about your actual age, other things like fight mileage, number of yrs competing, recreational activity outside of fighting, etc all take a toll, despite him being relatively young

 

[ColombianFist]

i agree with Ts but despite those wins jones looked bad.

I think he relyed too much on roids and athleticism that when he became clean, he lost some edge and couldn't perfom like the old jones; he didn't had good boxing defense, but his freak reach advantage was enough to defend shots.. the smith fight wasn't a good indicator but the Santos and the Reyes fight shown a very slow jones. All this smoke he's making about fighting at HW where the strenght is bigger and guys don't have to rush to get into jones is just a gimmick, he won't fight Stipe or Ngannou unless the UFC pays a lot.

 

[HP_Nut]

Vs Teixeira: 138 of 236
Vs Gustafsson I: 134 of 217
Vs DC I: 92 of 178
VS OSP: 105 of 157
Vs DC II: 95 of 165
+ July 1st, 2015: USADA's partnership with the UFC went into effect +
Vs Smith: 125 of 167
Vs Santos 59 of 90
Vs Reyes: 104 of 166

... Jones has had the exact same volume against Smith and Reyes that he did against DC II, when he was on rocket fuel.
I'm not sure if he really declined as much, or if the competition and/or the testing is catching up with him.

DC 2 was only about 2.5 rds before Jones finished him, Jones landed 95 strikes in 2.5 rds. Smith & Reyes were 5 rd each

 

[whitebelt4life]

Jon Jones has looked worse in each of his last 3 fights Coincidence? i think not

vs Smith: could have LOST VIA DQ
vs. Santos: SPLIT DECISION even with 2 blown out knees, Jones couldnt do sh*t
vs. Reyes: won by UD but OUT-STRUCK, knocked down, and horrible judging.

based on the tape I've watched, he's noticeably slower, less explosive, and powerful. His wrestling looks regressed. The man who thoroughly outwrestled DC couldn't take down a one-legged Santos once.
The Reyes fight showed a visible regression in chain wrestling and he gave up on attempts quickly, relative to before. As for striking - significantly less volume. The stats say it all, but watch the fights for yourself. He used to throw combinations, unpredictable strikes, he was good at keeping the opponent guessing. These days? You don't see a single combination in his last 3 fights. None of those tricky "look low, kick high" shenanigans.

Jones initially built his tainted legacy from an era where LHW's were shorter. 5'11-6'1. Smith is 6'4, Santos is a thick 6'4, Reyes is 6'5. Much of his game stems from distance and using his length to not get hit.
dont want to get into the juicy juice but he popped for Gus and Smith, two fights he dominated. He did not pop for Santos and Reyes. At a certain point, correlation becomes so certain it reasonably indicates causation.

he knows he is on borrowed time and a loss is inevitable if he keeps fighting.
guys like Prochazka would literally kill him, i just couldn't see him beating all three of Jan, Jiri and Rakic.
he was smart to move to HW - if he is going to lose, only losing to Francis(and collecting 30m lul) or Gane will keep his reputation intact.
we've already seen moving up and losing doesn't affect perceptions of you (see Adesanya v Jan) so there's nothing to lose, everything to gain going to HW and nothing to gain in staying at LHW.

You say he dominates when he's on the juice...that doesn't indicate a decline. It indicates he needs to get back on the juice.

 

[Iron Nick]

DC 2 was only about 2.5 rds before Jones finished him, Jones landed 95 strikes in 2.5 rds. Smith & Reyes were 5 rd each

Shit, you're right!