Big John McCarthy thinks Peter Yan became Champ and still doesn't know about illegal knees, LMFAO

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Holyshit are the excuses getting bad now.......BJM seriously thinks that Yan became champ without knowing about knees being illegal when the opponent has their knee on the ground, that Yan seriously thought that once your hand stops touching the ground, you're ok to hit.....I mean just LMFAO.

The excuses are ridicolous....the guy is just a fucking dirty fighter, he knew....Knees to a grounded opponent is one of the most known rules, now way he could become champ and not know this lol


This is like saying a guy who became champ, still doesn't know stomps/soccer kicks are illegal lol.
 
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Holyshit are the excuses getting bad now.......BJM seriously thinks that Yan became champ without knowing about knees being illegal when the opponent has their knee on the ground, that Yan seriously thought that once your hand stops touching the ground, you're ok to hit.....I mean just LMFAO.

The excuses are ridicolous....the guy is just a fucking dirty fighter, he knew....Knees to a grounded opponent is one of the most known rules, now way he could become champ and not know this lol


This is like saying a guy who became champ, still doesn't know stomps/soccer kicks are illegal lol.
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To be fair the rules in terms to knees and grounded opponent and not grounded opponent is weird and different depending where the fight is taking place. 1 hand, 2 hands, no hands, 1 knee, 2 knees, no knees, etc. The rules need to be changed because this isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. Just make the move legal like other promotions, it's an old rule that was made a long time ago and needs to be adjusted just like 12-6 elbows. The people making the rules in the beginning did so to favor grapplers. It needs a change, stop handicapping strikers with unnecessary rules.
 
It's probably from the rule changes/inconsistency and focusing on the hand as well as a lack of intelligence.

Suggesting that Yan purposely committed a foul and purposely got DQ'd means you probably also lack intelligence.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
To be fair the rules in terms to knees and grounded opponent and not grounded opponent is weird and different depending where the fight is taking place. 1 hand, 2 hands, no hands, 1 knee, 2 knees, no knees, etc. The rules need to be changed because this isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. Just make the move legal like other promotions, it's an old rule that was made a long time ago and needs to be adjusted just like 12-6 elbows. The people making the rules in the beginning did so to favor grapplers. It needs a change, stop handicapping strikers with unnecessary rules.
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This 100% <mma4>
 
Ares Black said:
Big John McCarthy has become a caricature of a dumbass has-been. His work in Bellator is just awful.
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Yup. Give me Mauro Renallo, Jimmy Smith and Goldberg any day.

That's just me though.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
To be fair the rules in terms to knees and grounded opponent and not grounded opponent is weird and different depending where the fight is taking place. 1 hand, 2 hands, no hands, 1 knee, 2 knees, no knees, etc. The rules need to be changed because this isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. Just make the move legal like other promotions, it's an old rule that was made a long time ago and needs to be adjusted just like 12-6 elbows. The people making the rules in the beginning did so to favor grapplers. It needs a change, stop handicapping strikers with unnecessary rules.
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Right on
 
FIghtxIQ said:
To be fair the rules in terms to knees and grounded opponent and not grounded opponent is weird and different depending where the fight is taking place. 1 hand, 2 hands, no hands, 1 knee, 2 knees, no knees, etc. The rules need to be changed because this isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last. Just make the move legal like other promotions, it's an old rule that was made a long time ago and needs to be adjusted just like 12-6 elbows. The people making the rules in the beginning did so to favor grapplers. It needs a change, stop handicapping strikers with unnecessary rules.
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The rules are actually not that complicated and a pro fighter should 100% know them.

Old rules: any part of the body at all other than the soles of your feet makes you a grounded fighter
New rules: exactly the same except you can also put down one hand without being grounded. Two hands or any other body part = grounded.

You just got to pay attention to which state you're fighting in w/r/t whether you can put a hand down or not.

Yan might have been focusing too much on the hands but a knee down makes you grounded everywhere.
 
Bojka said:
It's probably from the rule changes/inconsistency and focusing on the hand as well as a lack of intelligence.

Suggesting that Yan purposely committed a foul and purposely got DQ'd means you probably also lack intelligence.
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The ref told him not to do the thing and then he did the thing anyway.

Yan might have gotten confused but you have to hold idiots and smart people to the same standard.
 
The rules for grounded opponents are different in different places and have changed quite recently in some
 
I'm pretty sure in ACB where he spent a good half of his career they allowed knees to a grounded opponent

If he's never been in the situation in the UFC to land one and there's a language barrier it's not beyond the realm of possibility
 
Sticko said:
The rules are actually not that complicated and a pro fighter should 100% know them.

Old rules: any part of the body at all other than the soles of your feet makes you a grounded fighter
New rules: exactly the same except you can also put down one hand without being grounded. Two hands or any other body part = grounded.

You just got to pay attention to which state you're fighting in w/r/t whether you can put a hand down or not.

Yan might have been focusing too much on the hands but a knee down makes you grounded everywhere.
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It's because there are different rules in different promotions. Yan trains with people that use different rules than UFC. So it might be something he's got used to doing in training since he trains in different places/camps/gyms. Yes the rules are the way it is in the UFC but it does get confusing to the fighters. Lots of fouls happen when they don't fully understand the grounded rule or time their knee wrong and they expected them to stand up and they didn't. That's why I feel the rules need a rework when it comes to grounded opponents.
 
FIghtxIQ said:
It's because there are different rules in different promotions. Yan trains with people that use different rules than UFC. So it might be something he's got used to doing in training since he trains in different places/camps/gyms. Yes the rules are the way it is in the UFC but it does get confusing to the fighters. Lots of fouls happen when they don't fully understand the grounded rule or time their knee wrong and they expected them to stand up and they didn't. That's why I feel the rules need a rework when it comes to grounded opponents.
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Well, ONE allows knees to the head of a grounded opponent. So I can't speak to every promotion around the world. But if you're fighting in the US or in any UFC event, knees to the head of an opponent with their knee on the ground is never allowed.
The problem is getting people on athletics commissions and in various promotions to agree on anything. Like we had unified rules because the sport was in its infancy so they tried to set a standard, but now we have the "new rules" allowing one hand vs. the old rules because when some state commissions decided the old rule was too strict, they couldn't get all the others on board. So you really can't do a rework unless you get everybody on board, because it'll just make things even more confusing.
 
Gilday said:
I'm pretty sure in ACB where he spent a good half of his career they allowed knees to a grounded opponent

If he's never been in the situation in the UFC to land one and there's a language barrier it's not beyond the realm of possibility
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Knees not being allowed to a grounded opponent must of come up during training....I mean somebody would've noticed that blatant foul, so no I don't buy that excuse.


He knew about this rule so is ridiculous how big john brings it up
 
He knew the rule, he just wasn't thinking clearly given the situation - from his vantage he didn't know if the knee was down, couldn't tell if crouched or kneeling (which is why it's ridiculous to let a guy take a knee to avoid getting kneed). I'm sure the pre-fight referee discussion with "old rules vs. new rules" and talking about hands being up or down just adds to confusion (since you forget the knees make it all irrelevant anyways).

His mindset should've been to disengage from positions where Sterling was stalling/baiting fouls but his killer instinct is just too high it seems - he was so focused on landing the most devastating strike possible he didn't realize he had a beaten down, gassed opponent repeatedly "bending the knee" to him in the middle of a cage fight.

Deserved DQ sad to say, hopefully he will learn from this and it's just a speed-bump - Yan is an absolute killer and clearly the best current BW based on that performance.
 
theTKDguy said:
I'd rather listen to BJM and Josh than ariel and dc or chael. Big time.
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This x10000. Ariel doesn’t know shit about the technical and Chael just says run on sentences that don’t mean anything and ends videos with vague questions. Really don’t know how those guys are so popular for mma commentary
 
Ignorance of the rules should not be a valid excuse in any profession.
 
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