UFC/USADA marijuana policy violates state law

[Alpha_T83]

The athletic commissions are responsible for determining policy around drug tests, and they determine what is legal or illegal in their respective states. Those commissions ALLOW USADA to do their testing for them, but USADA cannot substitute their own policies in place of commission policies.

This policy is patently illegal, so long as state law determines that marijuana positive tests be considered a drug test violation.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

All USADA is saying is that they are not violating fighters over positive marijuana tests. They aren't a law enforcement entity. Nor should they act like they are.


And the US government is in the process of moving marijuana off being a schedule 1 drug currently.

 

[Luthien]

Nick and Nate

 

[Kvothe_the_kingkiller]

The athletic commissions are responsible for determining policy around drug tests, and they determine what is legal or illegal in their respective states. Those commissions ALLOW USADA to do their testing for them, but USADA cannot substitute their own policies in place of commission policies.

This policy is patently illegal, so long as state law determines that marijuana positive tests be considered a drug test violation.

If you're trying to point out that NSAC can still suspend fighters for positive pot tests, when they test the fighters in Nevada, you're right, and I think everyone knows this.

But when fights are not in states with sanctioning bodies, UFC & USADA do the testing. And in those cases, positive pot tests don't matter. And again I'm pretty sure everyone knows this.

Then again, maybe a bunch of fans don't know it, cannot read between the lines it wouldn't be the first time I was unimpressed with general mma fan knowledge, heh.

 

[kflo]

If you're trying to point out that NSAC can still suspend fighters for positive pot tests, when they test the fighters in Nevada, you're right, and I think everyone knows this.

But when fights are not in states with sanctioning bodies, UFC & USADA do the testing. And in those cases, positive pot tests don't matter. And again I'm pretty sure everyone knows this.

even for fights in nevada, the only tests that nevada can enforce suspensions around are the in competition tests.

 

[RedFoxNdisBihhh]

UFC can think outside the box easily with this and only schedule fighters who openly admit using in appropriate states etc ...

Marijuana is legal in Nevada btw

and if you can get by juicing and smoking pot already under athletic commission standards whats the real big issue ???

 

[Kvothe_the_kingkiller]

even for fights in nevada, the only tests that nevada can enforce suspensions around are the in competition tests.

Ah. Is that a result of the Jon Jones out-of-competition cocaine test?

 

[kflo]

Ah. Is that a result of the Jon Jones out-of-competition cocaine test?

i don't think it's a result of that, just consistent with that.

 

[internetter]

Who gives a shit.

 

[bref]

Can't the UFC just not enforce the sanctions/suspensions from individual states and have that fighter just fight their next fight(s) in a different state or country?

 

[Slaikkaaja]

Just make it legal worldwide, as it should be.

 

[GrantB13]

Ah. Is that a result of the Jon Jones out-of-competition cocaine test?

Unless I'm wrong, I don't think Jones was supposed to be flagged in the first place but they fumbled on the policies or whatever. I think it was in place already that a cocaine test wouldn't be an issue out of competition

 

[GrantB13]

Can't the UFC just not enforce the sanctions/suspensions from individual states and have that fighter just fight their next fight(s) in a different state or country?

They could but that would be a bad look for legitimacy and would possibly cause some backlash.

 

[RedFoxNdisBihhh]

Can't the UFC just not enforce the sanctions/suspensions from individual states and have that fighter just fight their next fight(s) in a different state or country?

they could but it would backfire so quick

might even be considered to be non sanctioned bouts if the commission dont recognize it


also if one commission says nay and you go behind their back its likely the other commissions will frown on that beings you will likely do the same to them when you dont like a decision being made


no need to act hostile .. just keep working with lawmakers and commission to get ot changed correctly

the more you work with them than against the better

 

[Kvothe_the_kingkiller]

i don't think it's a result of that, just consistent with that.

Ya I worded that poorly. I meant something like "do we know this because of...." Thanks.

 

[Coolkid666]

 

[Snake Fist]

Pot has been used by man for tens of thousands of years, and not so long ago it was labelled nature's most useful crop, it was never made illegal becuase it was bad for us in any way, it was made illegal for it was extremely beneficial and essential to us.

Just like the American Government tried to ban the use of Peyote from certain indigenous peoples as they knew fine well it went hand in hand with their way of life.

 

[Eric O]

The athletic commissions are responsible for determining policy around drug tests, and they determine what is legal or illegal in their respective states. Those commissions ALLOW USADA to do their testing for them, but USADA cannot substitute their own policies in place of commission policies.

This policy is patently illegal, so long as state law determines that marijuana positive tests be considered a drug test violation.

Sleep outside and freeze to death for wasting both my time and bandwidth...

 

[RichyN]

So if the athletic commission allows USADA to act in place of the commission in a particular state. Why is it illegal for USADA to allow fighters to fight who test positive for weed? It's not their responsibility to charge/punish fighters according to state laws. That is the job of the prosecuting office and/or athletic commission as you say.

USADA has their own rules and regulations that they follow. And as far as I am concerned, weed should not be on their radar. Also, if the state athletic commission does not like it, than don't let USADA test athletes for them. But the athletic commissions won't do that because they know USADA is better at catching athletes who abuse steroids to gain a competitive advantage.

So what are you smoking bro? Why do you even give a shit? Weed isn't hurting anyone...

 

[chinarice]

Sleep outside and freeze to death for wasting both my time and bandwidth...

You're kind of a piece of shit eh? Id rather see a post from the TS than ever see another post from you again. Go back to whatever subforum you were being shit in and stay there.