Rumored Deconstructing MMA Myths... [Part 40] - Smoke Gets in Your Eyes...

[gono btw]

Today: [US NHB & Brazilian Vale Tudo Scenes]


MYTH: Them Gracies deliberately used smoke to weaken one of the competitors @ UFC 1, Brotha Zane Frazier...


Note: this thread can be seen as an extension of these ones:

Spoiler: DECONS

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-18-the-genesis-of-ufc-1´s-roster.3855847/

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-34-horion´s-choice-ufc-1.3984975/

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-1-hoyce-his-gi-ufc-1.3734725/

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...-part-9-bjj-during-the-vale-tudo-era.3826197/

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-35-the-samurai-the-missin´-link-in-bjj-evolution.3994271/

Spoiler: 'The Day...'

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-ufc-1-was-really-born-41.3964531/

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-day-hoyce-became-world-lhw-champ-42.3972653/

B4 finishin´ that monumental 39th Decons, a few eazy ones...
But 1st...an intermission... Rizin-style...
Decons Threads are gonna start this new era the right way, the slick way...with my Fav...

Spoiler: Smoke Gets in Your Eyes...

Much better now...


CONTEXT: UFC 1 was in Denver, 5,000 ft above Sea Level.

So many conspiracy theories about UFC 1... Everythin´was apparently shaddy, even the entrances...
Them Gracies, who are no saints, apparently [via Art Davie, of course] used some smoke to weaken one of the competitors, Zane Frazier...

Spoiler: An amateurish Interview...

@ 5mn50:

I] Brackets...

Zane was on the other bracket, consequently by weakenin´him them Gracies were makin´it easier for the rest of the bracket, especially Gordeau...

Spoiler: Bracket

Since Art decided to put Ken & Hoyce in the same bracket, that meant Gordeau would have an easier path to the final...
Then why would they make it even easier by weakenin´Kevin?

Spoiler: Art Davie´s book: 'Is It Legal?'

"Of the eight tournament fighters, I felt that only Royce, Shamrock and Gordeau had a realistic chance of claiming the $50,000 first prize."

II] Asthma - Awareness:

Wallace claims that Zane told them not to use smoke because of his asthma...

Spoiler: UFC 1 - Zane Frazier´s entrance...

And indeed, after the fight Zane was rushed to the hospital after havin´an asthma attack.
But he later declared:

Zane FRAZIER: "And then, all of a sudden, my lungs started to close. Kevin came at me, and I couldn't do anything. I couldn't even breathe. I remember covering up, and I slumped down. My coaches came over to me and got me out of the ring.
The paramedics got me on oxygen and rushed me to the hospital. This nurse from Denver [where the elevation is more than 5,000 feet above sea level], she says, "Mr. Frazier, son, you have asthma. Do you know what asthma is?" I shook my head."

That´s rather controversial, indeed...

Spoiler: Art Davie´s book, 'Is It Legal?"

"A few minutes later, I ran into Frazier, who was coming back from a run.
He immediately starting griping about the weather, and the altitude, and his breathing problems."

"Frazier looked terrified, and seemed really agitated. I felt like he was already thinking about all of the reasons why he was going to lose, and why it would be our fault.
“How are you doing, Zane?”
“Man, I just hope my breathing problems don’t start up.”

"Quarterfinal #2—Zane Frazier vs. Kevin Rosier:
As Rosier made his entrance walk towards the arena floor, he became blinded by the lights and smoke that Pillot had
arranged, and hit his head on the lighting grid.
The impact of the blow almost knocked Rosier out. But undeterred, he kept right on walking."

III] Gracies out of the Equation:

1/ UFC 9:

After UFC 5, Art Davie had a bitter meetin´with Horion, & talked him into sellin´his share of the company.
Gracies were out.

Spoiler

Less than 3 years later, Zane was makin´his comeback in the UFC, @ UFC 9...

No more Gracies, for sure no more Smoke, no more Probz...

Spoiler: UFC 9 vs Cal Worsham...

2/ World Vale Tudo Championship 3 [Brazil]:

Must be a UFC thing... Gracies´aura was still there, somehow.. They were still manipulatin´...somewhere...

Let´s check, tho...
Right after UFC 9, Zane went to Brazil, pure Vale Tudo style, & competed @ WVC 3, against Capoeirista Master Hulk...

OK... WVC, it´s Frederico Lapenda, Marco Huas´manager ["Brazil´s biggest crook", dixit Carlson...]...
It´s consequently more Luta Livre than GJJ, them Gracies are really out of the game here...

There´s no possible way that...

Spoiler: WVC 3 vs Master Hulk...

No Hes-Pekt...All of them did da Brotha wrong.
Nuff´Said.

Spoiler: DECONS Threads

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-39-2-chasin´the-wolf-´round-the-ring-fedor-vs-arona.4153702/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-39-1-chasin´the-wolf-´round-the-ring-fedor-vs-arona.4126283/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...art-36-the-best-base-special-edition.4013527/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-24-carlson´s-silence.3879035/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...-part-9-bjj-during-the-vale-tudo-era.3826197/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-13-1-khabib´s-eastern-european-career.3830345/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-13-2-khabib´s-eastern-european-career-the-magomedov-fight.3968083/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-14-mousasi-flukes.3836617/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...-the-anatomy-of-a-fighter-khabib-1-2.3844333/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...-the-anatomy-of-a-fighter-khabib-2-2.3844507/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...t-16-siamese-brothers-the-2-hw-goats.3851935/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-25-the-wild-wild-east.3886295/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-23-cross-trainin´-in-mma´s-dark-ages.3874607/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-groovy-paradox.3893619/page-3#post-148236621
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...de-ow-gp-mezger-those-infamous-6-lbs.3899881/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-28-deaf-ears.3907767/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-29-bj-penn-the-frontrunner.3925599/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-30-mma´s-buster-douglas.3935185/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-6-all-fights-start-from-standin´-position.3808087/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-5-the-true-evolution-of-mma.3807975/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-4-the-evolution-of-submission-defence-grapplin´.3803333/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-3-the-evolution-of-werdum´s-strikin´.3831261/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-2-hunto´s-atomicbutt-drop.3735841/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-1-hoyce-his-gi-ufc-1.3734725/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...skill-set-mma-evolution-the-hws-case.3815393/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...hs-part-8-mma-cans-the-unsung-heroes.3822123/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-10-b4-after-usada.3826221/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-11-fighters´evolution.3827221/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...t-mma-evolution-the-lhw-golden-era-s.3828473/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-17-askren´s-undefeated-record.3855315/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-18-the-genesis-of-ufc-1´s-roster.3855847/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...-evolution-the-mw-transitional-era-s.3858851/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-20-judges-mma-ideology.3862173/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...ma-evolution-the-disorganized-ww-div.3873877/
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/d...part-22-the-avenged-losses-narrative.3874257/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-ufc-5-requiem-for-the-vale-tudo-era.3947367/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-32-where´s-dat-suplex-monster.3954795/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-33-the-undisputed-goat.3961171/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-34-horion´s-choice-ufc-1.3984975/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-35-the-samurai-the-missin´-link-in-bjj-evolution.3994271/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-37-controversial-decisions-scorin´systems.4020275/
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/deconstructing-mma-myths-part-38-re-ass-essin´da-atomic-butt-drop.4084973/

 

[HHJ]

This seems like sour grapes and hurt butts to me.

If smoke and high sea level are your excuses then you probably arent fit to fight anyway.

 

[HHJ]

Have a bonus gracie train on me

 

[Frank McEdgar]

The fix was in

 

[HHJ]

The fix was in

That would have been glorious.

"The poisonous dagestani rat gas was in me eyes!!!"

 

[gono btw]

This seems like sour grapes and hurt butts to me.

If smoke and high sea level are your excuses then you probably arent fit to fight anyway.

yeah, it´s not so much about Zane, tho...more about all those conspiracy theories regardin´ UFC 1...

 

[DoctorStoppage]

Man I like the depth of your write ups but your topic selection is kinda boring. Wish you would tackle subjects people still talk/care about.

No shots intended

 

[DespicablePeep]

He should have filed for attempted murder

 

[gono btw]

Man I like the depth of your write ups but your topic selection is kinda boring. Wish you would tackle subjects people still talk/care about.

No shots intended

helax, if you dont dig these shits, others do. That´s life, mate...

 

[Blayt7hh]

I wish you didn’t type these threads like an idiot on Aderol trying to sound cool to the young kids

 

[gono btw]

I wish you didn’t type these threads like an idiot on Aderol trying to sound cool to the young kids

hmm...not the 1st time Im tellin´you this, but check: those Decons threads are not written for No Rush´tards like you.
Jus´avoid them, & go back to your No Rush vs Spider threads, that´s the best you can do ´round here, mate.

 

[RemyR]

 

[gono btw]

Have a bonus gracie train on me

Spoiler

 

[JoshTehV]

This seems like sour grapes and hurt butts to me.

If smoke and high sea level are your excuses then you probably arent fit to fight anyway.

when I was at my fittest I could rip half gram bowls of bud out of a bong back to back, now I can barely cash a .2 in one hit, nor run a mile in a healthy amount of time lmao

 

[gono btw]

Added: Some Insights from Art Davie´s book, 'Is It Legal?"

Spoiler: Art Davie´s book, 'Is It Legal?"

"A few minutes later, I ran into Frazier, who was coming back from a run.
He immediately starting griping about the weather, and the altitude, and his breathing problems."

"Frazier looked terrified, and seemed really agitated. I felt like he was already thinking about all of the reasons why he was going to lose, and why it would be our fault.
“How are you doing, Zane?”
“Man, I just hope my breathing problems don’t start up.”

"Quarterfinal #2—Zane Frazier vs. Kevin Rosier:
As Rosier made his entrance walk towards the arena floor, he became blinded by the lights and smoke that Pillot had
arranged, and hit his head on the lighting grid.
The impact of the blow almost knocked Rosier out. But undeterred, he kept right on walking."