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To the people who blame tony's loss to gaethje on a weight cut

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Tell us, how are you feeling right now? Figuerdo had two weight cuts and wasn't feeling great but still performed at an excel level.

Tony didn't lose because of his two weight cuts. Tony lost because he's out of his prime and the shit he could get away with in his prime, he can't do in old age. Roy jones isn't the most technically sound. Would fight with his hands down a lot but had great reflexes and timing. As he got older and the natural abilities , he paid for it.

Same things happening.to tony now. If Tony was a sound striker with fundamental defense. He probably could stretch more years at the top but because he got away with bad habits so long, it's not a possibility. Sucks as a tony fan
 
Still consider him the 2nd best LW of all time. He would probably lose to most top LWs at this point. He is much better than BJ Penn's overrated ass. People that were claiming he was the LW GOAT were extremely stupid though, he was never near Khabib's level.
 
Tell us, how are you feeling right now? Figuerdo had two weight cuts and wasn't feeling great but still performed at an excel level.

Tony didn't lose because of his two weight cuts. Tony lost because he's out of his prime and the shit he could get away with in his prime, he can't do in old age. Roy jones isn't the most technically sound. Would fight with his hands down a lot but had great reflexes and timing. As he got older and the natural abilities , he paid for it.

Same things happening.to tony now. If Tony was a sound striker with fundamental defense. He probably could stretch more years at the top but because he got away with bad habits so long, it's not a possibility. Sucks as a tony fan
Tony never had fundamental defense. He had a solid chin that he relied on instead of using fundamental defense or head movement.

He took too much damage and his confidence wasn't there tonight, it was obvious during the stand up exchanges. He didn't get slept so his chin might still be good, might just be a mental aspect right now. Similar to Ngannou's first fight after the Stipe loss. Ferg wasn't fighting with his usual confident pressure forward zombie style. That's the style that breaks people. Instead he was back peddling from the start, and that type of style doesn't suit his fighting style. It's not the style that got him his win streak.
 
What a brutal sport. I feel for the guy, I think he's just been into too many serious wars of attrition - ultimately I hope he does alright ((how's the UFC retirement plan anyway??)
 
Didn’t read any of the op. Pretty obvious it’s some fairweather “Khabib “ fan trolling the forum. Fuck off
 
It absolutely made sense to blame it on the weight cuts at the time, he looked slower after 2 cuts and an opponent change, of course people would put two and two together.

After this fight I do feel that he is just old and past it, but it's also possible that the cuts compromised him against Gaethje, and the Gaethje beating sealed the deal. They're both valid viewpoints, don't see why it needs to be some kind of competition to see who's right or 'i told you so'
 
Didn’t read any of the op. Pretty obvious it’s some fairweather “Khabib “ fan trolling the forum. Fuck off
If you had bothered to read it was a genuine point and OP is a Tony fan
 
He really needs to fucking retire. Has nothing left to prove.

Unless he decides to go to WW....
 
And I suppose Figgy drew tonight because hes past it too.
 
Tony never had fundamental defense. He had a solid chin that he relied on instead of using fundamental defense or head movement.

He took too much damage and his confidence wasn't there tonight, it was obvious during the stand up exchanges. He didn't get slept so his chin might still be good, might just be a mental aspect right now. Similar to Ngannou's first fight after the Stipe loss. Ferg wasn't fighting with his usual confident pressure forward zombie style. That's the style that breaks people. Instead he was back peddling from the start, and that type of style doesn't suit his fighting style. It's not the style that got him his win streak.

I don't think it was that he had no defense, more he decided instead of defending he would use it as an opportunity to turn the fight into war, he really seemed to grow in the chaos he created and nobody could keep up. The last 2 fights haven't let Tony get in that position/not baited into it. Particularly today's fight was low risk of a beat down as possible.
 
Tell us, how are you feeling right now? Figuerdo had two weight cuts and wasn't feeling great but still performed at an excel level.

Tony didn't lose because of his two weight cuts. Tony lost because he's out of his prime and the shit he could get away with in his prime, he can't do in old age. Roy jones isn't the most technically sound. Would fight with his hands down a lot but had great reflexes and timing. As he got older and the natural abilities , he paid for it.

Same things happening.to tony now. If Tony was a sound striker with fundamental defense. He probably could stretch more years at the top but because he got away with bad habits so long, it's not a possibility. Sucks as a tony fan

Tony looked smaller today and was super concerned about his opponents weight. Makes me think his started feeling small for weight class.
 
Still consider him the 2nd best LW of all time. He would probably lose to most top LWs at this point. He is much better than BJ Penn's overrated ass. People that were claiming he was the LW GOAT were extremely stupid though, he was never near Khabib's level.

Why is Bj Penn overrated ? How would prime Tony beat him ?
 
Didn’t read any of the op. Pretty obvious it’s some fairweather “Khabib “ fan trolling the forum. Fuck off
You're an idiot. I'm also a Tony fan. I didn't like that he lost yesterday. I was rooting for Tony
 
Still consider him the 2nd best LW of all time. He would probably lose to most top LWs at this point. He is much better than BJ Penn's overrated ass. People that were claiming he was the LW GOAT were extremely stupid though, he was never near Khabib's level.
Same. I have him behind khabib. I consider him the defacto lw champion not the interim when Conor wasn't around. It's sad to see him go out like that like real sad. I was bummed that he lost to Gaethje. I still haven't gone back and watch that fight. This fight was more sad. At least with Gaethje he went out on his shield. In this fight, he just got mauled he couldn't do anything. Pretty sad to watch. I'd never thought I'd see Tony get caught in multiple submissions
 
Tell us, how are you feeling right now? Figuerdo had two weight cuts and wasn't feeling great but still performed at an excel level.

Tony didn't lose because of his two weight cuts. Tony lost because he's out of his prime and the shit he could get away with in his prime, he can't do in old age. Roy jones isn't the most technically sound. Would fight with his hands down a lot but had great reflexes and timing. As he got older and the natural abilities , he paid for it.

Same things happening.to tony now. If Tony was a sound striker with fundamental defense. He probably could stretch more years at the top but because he got away with bad habits so long, it's not a possibility. Sucks as a tony fan
Ahh yes because everybody has the same cookie cutter biology, methodology of training/camp and weight cuts and opponent to expose it.

How do you write this, read it to yourself, then hit Post Reply and think to yourself you made a point.

Just take the L dog. Nobody is going to remember this by Monday.
 
I noticed how many times Ferg turned his back to Oliveira, and realized hes been doin that shit since forever. Those are the kinks only a real camp can work out.
 
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