Who was off to a more legendary start to their WW career at this point, GSP or Usman?

[2004 account]

When comparing the two careers at the same number of fights and considering their competition, who do you think is off to a better career between GSP and Usman?


I'd say they have pretty similar careers so far

 

[Doctor Lenovo]

GSP retired way too early. If Usman wins his next 3 fights, then he is better than GSP. Numbers don't lie.

GSP has 13 consecutive wins. Usman has 11. If Usman makes it to 14, then he is better than GSP in books. Remember, GSP fought the same 4 guys 8 times. Hughes, Penn, Koscheck and Serra.

 

[ftpngo]

GSP retired way too early. If Usman wins his next 3 fights, then he is better than GSP. Numbers don't lie.

GSP has 13 consecutive wins. Usman has 11. If Usman makes it to 14, then he is better than GSP in books. Remember, GSP fought the same 4 guys 8 times. Hughes, Penn, Koscheck and Serra.

So a loss erases all your previous wins?

Sounds legit

 

[cyrusthevyrus]

GSP, of course. that guy fought real competition.

 

[Doctor Lenovo]

So a loss erases all your previous wins?

Sounds legit

When did I say "a loss erases all your previous wins?"

 

[Doctor Lenovo]

GSP, of course. that guy fought real competition.

GSP fought 4 guys at least 8 times. Hughes, Penn, Serra and Koschek.

 

[grimballer]

 

[DLX]

I'd still say GSP because his level of competition was better. But Usman is gaining ground quickly.

 

[Hotora86]

When comparing the two careers at the same number of fights and considering their competition, who do you think is off to a better career between GSP and Usman?


I'd say they have pretty similar careers so far

Usman is super legit and may surpass GSP but at this point I still have GSP higher due to stronger comp.

Take a look at this thread:
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/least-padded-record-in-mma.3818233/

GSP has literally fought no cans EVER.
Marty has a couple and actually lost to one (Caceres).

That may not be the most important qualifier to some fans but to me it is if we're talking legendary careers. Facing only the toughest men in the sport from the very start is a feat in itself. And if you beat them all - that's legendary. (yes I know GSP lost but he avenged both losses)

 

[KID Yamamoto]

Usman is super legit and may surpass GSP but at this point I still have GSP higher due to stronger comp.

Take a look at this thread:
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/least-padded-record-in-mma.3818233/

GSP has literally fought no cans EVER.
Marty has a couple and actually lost to one (Caceres).

Lets not act like hardy and serra were that great of wins come on

 

[Blayt7hh]

Lol, you guys don’t think you might be getting ahead of yourselves? Let Usman defend a good 4 or 5 more times then we can start this debate

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

When GSP wa at this stage in his career he was like 5 years younger than Usman is now. Lets see if Usman can defend that title 10 more times, thats the bar.

 

[Dilan Cummingsworth]

When comparing the two careers at the same number of fights and considering their competition, who do you think is off to a better career between GSP and Usman?


I'd say they have pretty similar careers so far

GSP as a defending champion tapped to strikes and later took a beating from Hendricks causing him to flee the sport all while he was in his prime:

 

[CannotWin]

GSP and it's not even close.

 

[Wise1]

SMH at anyone saying Gsp.

Obviously Kamaru has not earned Gsp status yet but as of right now he is clearly off to a better start.

 

[HomeRun916]

Usman is behind Woodley, lol @ comparing him to GSP.

 

[Mixfight]

Usman would have flushed the Den Ardys of the world.

 

[West Linn]

GSP retired way too early. If Usman wins his next 3 fights, then he is better than GSP. Numbers don't lie.

GSP has 13 consecutive wins. Usman has 11. If Usman makes it to 14, then he is better than GSP in books. Remember, GSP fought the same 4 guys 8 times. Hughes, Penn, Koscheck and Serra.

Interesting. You always hear this complaint about Cain, but never about GSP. Losing to two of them and winning a close split decision over another. Good point.

 

[Tony Robbins’ Trampoline]

St-Tapper. Then evolved into a Panic level changer and mastered the arts of distance and top control and became the dominant undisputed WW Goat.

 

[Hotora86]

Lets not act like hardy and serra were that great of wins come on

They were not cans. That's all I'm saying. GSP has no cans in his fight history. No easy fights, no mismatches. None. His 1st opponent was 4-0, then 4-1 and 5-1. GSP has never faced anyone with a losing record.
https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/georges-st-pierre-rush

Usman's first 4 opponents were 0-0, 3-3, 3-6, 2-1. And he lost to that 3-3 guy... His run in the UFC is super impressive and I am not a hater by any means. I'm just looking at the strength of competition throughout their respective careers.
https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/39265-kamarudeen-usman