Crime Yoga studio shooting: "far right woman hating misogynist"

[Ruprecht]

Some dude that can't get laid shouldn't be called an incel, it's confusing.

The word incel should refer strictly to the group of people who self identify as such just to avoid confusion.

He did.

 

[dontsnitch]

He did.

I understand that, I mean in general.

 

[InternetHero]

The parallel that you're attempting to draw is very disingenuous.

The inability of these people to get laid or have a relationship with woman doesn't matter, but for the fact that they use it as jet fuel for their misogynistic views. Which in this case ended in mass violence.

I don't give a fuck about the political views of people that like to have sex in costumes because those people don't post in mass groups online fetishizing about violence towards woman. They don't like this guy harass woman repeatedly in public. And they don't like this guy end up acting on the violent rhetoric they were spewing.

So until a furry goes and commits a mass shooting over people not wanting to fuck them in costume they are not equivalent to this incel garbage.

All right, how many cases of isolated weirdos associated with the far right who were specifically misogynistic, rather than run of the mill sex perverts and delinquents, been known/shown to commit violent acts?

How many in the past, say 10/20 years? That should offer a large sample size to prove the threat.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

I fail to see how he isn't far right considering his views and his radical actions.

What do conservatives consider far right if this borderline terrorist action doesn't count?

Also can we start policing our own? I dig liberals like Burr and Maher for the way they callout SJWs and far left idiots.

Will we see popular right wing figureheads address the toxic elements of their movement from people who drank too deep from the well of propaganda?

It's wild, schools, grocery stores, churches, and fucking yoga studios aren't safe from these radicalized individuals.

 

[Ruprecht]

I fail to see how he isn't far right considering his views and his radical actions.

What do conservatives consider far right if this borderline terrorist action doesn't count?

Also can we start policing our own? I dig liberals like Burr and Maher for the way they callout SJWs and far left idiots.

Will we see popular right wing figureheads address the toxic elements of their movement from people who drank too deep from the well of propaganda?

It's wild, schools, grocery stores, churches, and fucking yoga studios aren't safe from these radicalized individuals.

Personally I don't consider racism and misogyny "far right" unless they are in some explicitly political form.
Extreme nationalism (chauvinism), racial nationalism, monarchism, reactionary conservatism, nativism, socioeconomic elitism, theocracy, anarchocapitalism... all far right.

 

[ScottE]

Personally I don't consider racism and misogyny "far right" unless they are in some explicitly political form.
Extreme nationalism (chauvinism), racial nationalism, monarchism, reactionary conservatism, nativism, socioeconomic elitism, theocracy, anarchocapitalism... all far right.

Would you not consider an overt hostility towards feminism to the point of scapegoating a "far-right" facete?

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Personally I don't consider racism and misogyny "far right" unless they are in some explicitly political form.
Extreme nationalism (chauvinism), racial nationalism, monarchism, reactionary conservatism, nativism, socioeconomic elitism, theocracy, anarchocapitalism... all far right.

I see your points. But wouldn't his racial ideology fall under one of those? Not to mention his identification with the incel community, something I believe falls under the alt right spectrum.


I also think his actions also lead to being far right when coupled with his doctrine.

I'm interested to know, should we start considering incel attacks terrorist attacks?

He expressed sympathy with Elliot O. Rodger, who killed six people in Isla Vista, Calif., three months before Mr. Beierle recorded the videos. Mr. Rodger had expressed his disgust at women online and urged “incels” — shorthand for involuntary celibates — to fight back.

 

[Ruprecht]

Would you not consider an overt hostility towards feminism to the point of scapegoating a "far-right" facete?

If it reaches the level of global right-wing conspiracy theories, sure.
There are soft versions of that which originated on the far right but are now just regular right-wing populism.

 

[ScottE]

If it reaches the level of global right-wing conspiracy theories, sure.
There are soft versions of that which originated on the far right but are now just regular right-wing populism.

So you're arguing just right-wing as opposed to far right?

 

[Ruprecht]

I see your points. But wouldn't his racial ideology fall under one of those? Not to mention his identification with the incel community, something I believe falls under the alt right spectrum.


I also think his actions also lead to being far right when coupled with his doctrine.

I'm interested to know, should we start considering incel attacks terrorist attacks?

It could be, but if there was that level of explicitly political motivation I'd expect them to have quoted or reported it in the articles. Instead they mention his reference to Obamacare and associating it with paying for contraception for "sluts". Is that far-right in the US at the moment? I thought that was a fairly mainstream narrative over the last couple of years.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

I heard about this on the radio and figured it was likely a case of domestic violence gone extreme. Like a bad romance or love triangle.

Now it turns out it was another incel far right loser who sounds like his YouTube videos would get likes from sherfronts righty posters.

 

[Ruprecht]

So you're arguing just right-wing as opposed to far right?

Yeah, those identity politics have been mainstreamed. Squarely in the Overton window.

 

[Juventud]

REVEALED: Pervert yoga studio gunman was a far-right woman-hating 'incel' misogynist who branded females 'wh***s' and 'sluts' in songs on YouTube

So basically a War Room Sherdogger?

 

[AgonyandIrony]

It could be, but if there was that level of explicitly political motivation I'd expect them to have quoted or reported it in the articles. Instead they mention his reference to Obamacare and associating it with paying for contraception for "sluts". Is that far-right in the US at the moment? I thought that was a fairly mainstream narrative over the last couple of years.

Is the statement of wanting to kill immigrants at the border not considered far right?

So basically a War Room Sherdogger?

I've been wondering that myself.

 

[Fawlty]

Oh hey look another right wing racist incel murdering people.

 

[Ruprecht]

Is the statement of wanting to kill immigrants at the border not considered far right?

Didn't see that one. I do consider that far-right. Not uncommon either. We'd see a lot of similar comments here if they were allowed.

 

[Ophydian]

im just replying saying. typically that frasing is used to try and paint any right leaning or non western ideology or nationalist as ´´nazis´´. I only assume your insane media will spin this and blame Trump and further distract people from real issues. Oh and this is mental illness and crazyness this shooter.

You do realize the alt right has more in common with Muslim extremism.

 

[bad seed]

ooooohh ´´´far right´´´. How about crazy? insane? with islamic type views of women? The incel thing is sad. Hopefully they arent all so angry. some need to go the monk route.

"Islamic type views of women"? Take a look around- the right wingers of this forum echo most of the same complaints as this incel- including you. They dont bat an eye when calling someone a whore or slut and always victimblame. And of course the obsession with white purity tainted by "invaders". Incels align politically with the right, of that there is no debate. Why even argue this?

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

I suppose every scumbag is a "far-right terrorist" these days. Makes for a better headline than just calling them a scumbag.

If every killer who voted Democrat and had called for increased social welfare, got reported by the press as a "far-left socialist", I'm sure there'd be a bunch of those too.

Pretty much. If anyone in the media actually gave a shit about black people other than ti use them as political pawns the MSM would cover Chicago's murder epidemic thusly:

Outrage as 457 Democrats killed by other Democrats in Chicago this year alone.

 

[bad seed]

The man who shot and killed two women at a yoga studio in Tallahassee, Florida, on Friday before killing himself was a far-right extremist and self-proclaimed misogynist who railed against women, black people, and immigrants in a series of online videos and songs.

On a YouTube channel in 2014, Beierle filmed several videos of himself offering extremely racist and misogynistic opinions, in which he called women “sluts” and “whores,” and lamented “the collective treachery” of girls he had gone to high school with.

“There are whores in — not only every city, not only every town, but every village,” he said, referring to women in interracial relationships, whom he said had betrayed “their blood.”​

sounds familiar.

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