Why does the UFC Apex have to be this small?

Gotta keep that property tax, insurance, and utility bill down! Bargain bin venue for bargain bin fights, but I hear Forrest grills a mean hotdog.
 
Nothing is stopping the UFC from signing a nice multi million dollar deal with any of the various smaller venues in Vegas for these Apex quality cards and produce them from there with a 3K to 5K audience. They could price it right for fans in town and give an easier path for some fans to see a live UFC event because the cost of them coming to you is getting pretty high for most fans.
 
For the fight cards they have in the APEX it is fine. No more seating needed.
 
Why sell 5000 tickets at $300 when you can sell 100 tickets at $1000 bucks and keep the lower operating expense? I too would love them to move to another arena (there are plenty in vegas) but its way cheaper to put on these small cards. They are having this weekends fight night in New Jersey randomly so it is happening more.
 
I think the look of the building has more to do with it than size of the crowd.

That’s why the hard rock hotel or pearl at the palms shows felt so special. Might have only been couple thousand, but the venues looked cool as shit.
 
Most of these garbage cards they are making wouldn't sell. They probably knew how rough it was selling fight night tickets and just save the costs now.

Honestly to me, I'm watching on tv and the crowd doesn't bother me especially for small events. It's strange how much it seems to affect people on sherdog.
 
A bit more than that.

"Since 2020, 65.31% of cards held in the U.S. have been taken place in the Apex."
Surely that number is skewed from the covid lockdown era where almost all events were held there though.
 
I don't see anything wrong with the size of the Octagon. Why do you need a bigger cage?
 
They are cheap, the UFC is cheap...why would they spend money building their own arena?? They did fights at the APEX bevause they already had it, they just made the minimal changes to get it up and running, it works like that, when the card is OK you see crowd there, when its hot garbage you dont, simple, they need a cheap place to do the cheap cards they put for free every weekend, its a way to cut costs for garbage cards.
 
So, I understand the convenience for the UFC to have a fixed arena in Las Vegas where all the minor cards can take place to run the rankings, but why does it all have to be so tiny? With a shrunken cage, a small audience, where you lose all the atmosphere of a big crowd and all the excitement that comes with it, both for the viewers and the fighters themselves?

The Apex the way it is now was perfect during the covid pandemic because assemblages were to be avoided anyway, now that the scare is over you can afford to accommodate more people, I bet with all the money ufc makes they could even build their own stadium lol, can they possibly be so cheap?
I agree they should at least put some more bleachers in there. I'm gonna guess there's usually about 200 people in there during the fight night but half of them are production crew, UFC employees, athletic commission people or fighter corners. That only leaves around 100 fans. Can you even buy tickets to those Apex shows or is it invite only? They should at least try to get like 500 fans minimum in there. That one fight night they did at that smaller casino in Vegas last year on the Merab/Yan fight had what looked like around 1000 people and it seemed like a small but loud and rowdy atmosphere. That's what they should aim for at the apex cards.
 
Dana realized how cheap it is to not have to pay an arena and for all of the set up for each event, and since the gate is usually just a fraction of the PPV, he probably had an accountant show him the profit margins on shitty apex vs. a real ppv and thought we should do this cheap bullshit all the time!
 
Theres a better chance of them green screening in a big crowd, than paying for an arena so they can claim the financial windfall that is the live gate of Tybura vs Tuivasa.
 
It’s a production thing. Dana said it look better on camera due to the size of the room and lighting but the bigger Octagon is needed for fan viewing in arenas.
Sounds like something my old boss would say when we needed new equipment.
Just another bullshit story from a notorious bullshit artist...fuck that guy and his little dog too.
 
I agree they should at least put some more bleachers in there. I'm gonna guess there's usually about 200 people in there during the fight night but half of them are production crew, UFC employees, athletic commission people or fighter corners. That only leaves around 100 fans. Can you even buy tickets to those Apex shows or is it invite only? They should at least try to get like 500 fans minimum in there. That one fight night they did at that smaller casino in Vegas last year on the Merab/Yan fight had what looked like around 1000 people and it seemed like a small but loud and rowdy atmosphere. That's what they should aim for at the apex cards.

My understanding the people in attendance at the Apex are invited guest of the UFC and some of the fighters fighting family/friends(very small amount on that side).
 
Apex needs more seats so it doesn't feel like they're fighting in an empty tin can.

Small cage, no crowd = the atmosphere of a drunk celebrating his birthday alone.
 
My understanding the people in attendance at the Apex are invited guest of the UFC and some of the fighters fighting family/friends(very small amount on that side).

They might as well be fighting in a backyard for that matter though sir.
 
They certainly could fill fight night cards with 1500 people, which would bring more money and more fun for the viewer.
 
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