Why are NRA people so angry all the time?

American friends: NRA

  • I support em

    Votes: 42 43.8%

  • I don't

    Votes: 40 41.7%

  • on the fence

    Votes: 14 14.6%
  • Total voters
    96
I don’t like how they project theirselves to be the voice of armed America.
 
TSO said:
Um, what? That's not a thing.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/03/31/nhtsa-rear-view-cameras/7114531/

"The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration issued a proposed rule Monday requiring all new light vehicles — including cars, SUVs, trucks and vans — to have "rear-view visibility systems," in effect, requiring backup cameras.

The rule -- which would be final in 60 days -- would start phasing in on May 1, 2016 models and be at 100% May 1, 2018.

The rule follows an outcry from consumer groups and by families touched by tragic back-over accidents, especially those involving children. They have pushed hard against more delays in the rule.

"We are committed to protecting the most vulnerable victims of back-over accidents — our children and seniors," Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said in a statement."
 
Clippy said:
Since the latest of many school shootings many businesses no longer support NRA. My American friend works in one of these many businesses. And the backlash is incredible and not nice. I mean these people can't seem to be civil, and they own FUCKING guns! Every comment they received has been angry and hateful, not one calm comment. So as more and more businesses no longer support NRA and the NRA people no longer patronize those businesses - what where the fuck are you going to shop?

I mean I get people are pissy about their right to own guns but I don't want to see guns with these angry people. I just don't know what's going on anymore, and you guys solution seems to only be to constantly add more guns to the mix. Arm the teachers!!??! When will it end??
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Lifetime Member here . . . I only get "angry" if folks spew inaccurate information or immediately begin blaming the NRA and members for every gun tragedy.

I never even knew half of these companies offered NRA members discounts. Yet rather than letting businesses work things out by either losing or gaining customers everyone is whining about boycotting the companies who don't stop offering discounts.

I mean, folks are free to express displeasure, but why not point it towards Broward County's Sheriff?
 
Don Quixote said:
I don’t like how they project theirselves to be the voice of armed America.
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I'm sure they don't represent 100% of gun owners views . . . heck, I'm not sure I agree 100% with each and everything they might say, but if they're not advocating for us (members or not) who will?
 
Don Quixote said:
I don’t like how they project theirselves to be the voice of armed America.
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I agree. Though I am not currently, I have been a responsible gun owner in the past.

I want a high bar on legal ownership. I want a firearm to be an indication of an achievement. Something earned by an individual and worthy of respect by others.

While the NRA essentially wants guns in vending machines.

You would think that people with the most knowledge of and experience with firearms would be the first to understand how unbelievably dangerous they can be in the wrong hands. And, accordingly, place responsible and significant impediments to ownership on them.
 
RerouteToRemain said:
Like what?

Corporations make up very little of their donations/budget.
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74% of NRA members support mandatory background checks...the NRA does not. No need to really post beyond that. And corporate donations make up very little of publicly disclosed donations. Furthermore, some of the largest private donors are simply individuals tied to the weapons industry.
 
Your friend is probably a liberal with low testosterone (like all liberals), so he's not used to dealing with real men. He probably needed a safe space afterwards.
 
helltoupee said:
It happens on both sides.

The NRA and gun industry play politics with millions in lobbyists, and use massacres to feed off people's fears just the same. Now LaPierre is making blanket statements about better dead than red socialists hiding in everyone's closet following the Parkland killings. Funny, not a peep out of him when we employ a socialist mechanism to fund the most expensive and wasteful department of defense in the world. I wonder how many trillions will go "unaccounted for" in the Pentagon this year. But that doesn't matter because the military makes the gun industry $$$.
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I do not by in large disagree.

In fact, from the same author just a few days ago.

An Epidemic of Dishonesty on the Right

By Kevin D. Williamson
February 22, 2018 1:22 PM

Enough with the rancid conspiracy theories

First it was the Holocaust, now Parkland — is there any act of depravity to which the less respectable right-wing media cannot imagine a connection for George Soros?

David Clarke, the sheriff of Fox News, insisted that the Florida students’ reaction to the shooting “has GEORGE SOROS’ FINGERPRINTS all over it,” idiotic capitalization in the original and, one assumes, in his soul. The idiots at Gateway Pundit suggested that one of the student survivors was a fraud because — get this — he’d been interviewed on television before about an unrelated incident. Dinesh D’Souza joined in to mock the students as patsies.

Full article:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/parkland-shooting-hoax-latest-right-dishonesty-epidemic/

Another of my favorite writers on the right, Jonah Goldberg, wrote specifically about how ridiculous the NRA in particular can be with their millions of ad-buys against "the establishment" and pursuant to other conspiracy theories.

Maybe I'll look it up sometime.

In the meantime, level heads would do well to realize most of this is system 1 vitriol turned up to 11 for partisan gain.

Yes something should be done, yes some of it may be about guns, but guns are a red herring for both sides away from the main issues, without a doubt in regards to the hard left.





First it was the Holocaust, now Parkland — is there any act of depravity to which the less respectable right-wing media cannot imagine a connection for George Soros?

David Clarke, the sheriff of Fox News, insisted that the Florida students’ reaction to the shooting “has GEORGE SOROS’ FINGERPRINTS all over it,” idiotic capitalization in the original and, one assumes, in his soul. The idiots at Gateway Pundit suggested that one of the student survivors was a fraud because — get this — he’d been interviewed on television before about an unrelated incident. Dinesh D’Souza joined in to mock the students as patsies.
 
Trying to take away somebody's tool of self defense can piss people off go figure...
 
andnowweknow said:
74% of NRA members support mandatory background checks...the NRA does not. No need to really post beyond that. And corporate donations make up very little of publicly disclosed donations. Furthermore, some of the largest private donors are simply individuals tied to the weapons industry.
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Proof?
 
RerouteToRemain said:
Proof?
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Google can show you many many examples of this statistic, but here is one.

From PEW:

http://www.people-press.org/2013/03/12/section-2-opinions-of-gun-owners-non-gun-owners/

"Among specific gun policy proposals, there is broad support in each of these groups for making private gun sales and sales at gun shows subject to background checks. Nearly eight-in-ten (79%) gun owners favor background checks on private gun sales, as do 86% of others in gun households and 85% of people in non-gun-owning households."

The NRA is 100% for the gun industry above all else, this single statistic regarding there lack of support for background checks makes the matter cut and dry. It's not a grey area at all so we can move on.
 
andnowweknow said:
The NRA is 100% for the gun industry above all else, this single statistic regarding there lack of support for background checks makes the matter cut and dry. It's not a grey area at all so we can move on.
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How does that help the gun industry?


Also the Fudds that were asked in the polls don't understand the implications of universal checks. You can't have universal checks without registration.
 
The interests of gun owners and gun manufacturers are not mutually exclusive. I'm pro-2A, but there's a lot of paranoia about "them" coming to take your guns away. This is largely determined at the state level and we have a Republican Party which won't let it happen and a Democratic Party which can't force the issue. If you don't want "them" to take your guns away, just don't move to Chicago or Washington, D.C. and you should be fine. It's the least of my concerns here in a Southern state where more people have concealed carry licenses than there are people period in some of the smaller states.
 
People like MAC and their families have gotten thousands of death threats in the last week or so.

 
RerouteToRemain said:
How does that help the gun industry?


Also the Fudds that were asked in the polls don't understand the implications of universal checks. You can't have universal checks without registration.
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So when presented with clear "proof"...you still argue. Got it.

If you don't see how preventing certain people from buying a product hurts the industry that makes said product I'm not sure I want to continue talking to you.
 
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