you're not getting it my dude
you just listed a whole laundry list of things the GOP does.....things we all know they do. Trump was even much more G than normal and admitted they do alot of these things when he shit all over the other GOP scrubs in the debates, and then HIlary in the main event. So to act all surprised or offended that they do it, is beyond disingenuous IMO.
Half the eligible voters in general don't vote, and when the supposedly honest and 'for the people' party is not only also taking corporate money (fine), but taking it from sources that they usually also cite as extreme faults in their opponents and is diametrically opposed to one of the main arguments in their platform of the last decade.......
well, that's when you lose to a guy that got Stone Cold Stunned one time, in easily the most embarrassingly pathetic major election loss in US history if not the World. Then, when caught cheating or at least highly suspect activities w/ the actual popular candidate in your party and issues w/ the storage of classified materials, they not only don't take any accountability whatsoever but fabricate mythical foreign boogeyman in a truly Alex Jones level conspiracy. Even funnier, they ignore the true, actual foreign collusion that is likely happening as we speak w/ Israel and Saudi Arabia (that Yemeni bombing of children of most recent events). They just have better stated moral highground, they don't actually have any left to stand on
When you truly appreciate Trump for what he actually is, the Greatest Troll in World History and arguably THE greatest media manipulator ever, the rest of this becomes so much more comical.
No I get it perfectly
The people chose a party that has policies that are blatantly pro corporation / pro elite to the point of it being detrimental to the common good over the other party that has polices aimed at improving the common good. And why? Because that "other party" still had some pro corporatist policies and tendancies. Basically those "corperate dems" had it coming for being such hypocrites (oil, finance, globalization, etc. you name it).
This of course lets the Rs totally of the hook for their bankrupt and massively hypocritical ideology / policy while attributing the Dems failure / Trump's ascendancy to the dems own hypocracy (which again discounts the relatively better policy the dem's had). According to you, voters are choosing the party that “everyone knows does not care about them” and that is led by the troll who, when not talking tribalism, changes his policy positions mid sentence. And they are doing it becuase the Dems are talking corperate donations (fine) from the oil industries (horror).
IMO the theory that voters on mass are cutting off their noses to spite their faces is a gross oversimplification (albeit with some truth). It's certainly not something to emulate (or more plainly the dem corp shill stuff might be appealing to some idiots but that's not a good reason to repeat it). I also think Trump benefited from many additional factors. To his credit he read the R party / base well (birther identity troll) during the primary. Hilary herself was an unappealing candidate for a variety of reasons, that also happened to have an appeal to the wrong cross section in the wrong places (amazing how it’s so overlooked that she actually did better with whites, southerners, etc than Obama and less well with minorities, which is one of the things that cost her the election). The anti establishment candidate also had cred in the aftermath of globalization in dem strongholds (again those corp dem shills).
So It’s more like the master media manipulator moniker fits the primaries but it was a lot of luck in the general. Hell Trump himself was arguable surprised as shit when he won. There is definitely something to the statement that Trump trolled himself to the White House, I agree with you on that. Trolls have any immense ability to create a wave of chaos just for the fuck of it and will exploit any contradiction.
But at the end of the day, Capitalist shill is either a pejorative or its not. Political hypocrisy is either a bad thing or it is not. Whatever the level of contradictions, lies, blatant BS that the Dems are guilty of, you can put it on steroids when it comes to the Rs. “Well every body knows the Rs are FOS” is not an argument. And I am not surprised that the Rs do it, no more than I am surprised the Trump himself, despite all his great critiques, still implemented the signature R establishment tax cut policy. That also puts Trump himself on a different level of FOS than what you are complaining about with the dems.
I know you said corporate donations fine, and that its just the oil thing that irks you (despite the dem policy on the oil industry being 1000X better than the Rs), but again, taken to its logical extension, you could apply this argument to take any money from corps, to their position on globalization, etc. The notion is that the Dems have to be as pure white as snow while the Rs (Trump included) get a pass on much worse activities, becuase “everyone knows the Rs are bad”. Anyone calling the Dems Corp shills should be puking all over trump. And if the only way to beat trump is for the Dems to enage in some far left strident approach to politics, well I feel bad for America.
That's it, I have laid it out as best I can (somewhat repetitively). I doubt we are going to agree, but simply put I'll take the better policy with some corporate warts over the blatantly beholden any day.
Btw I am not going to engage on the Alex jones stuff. I disagree but it’s a derail imo. Can save that for another day.
