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Came on overnight can barely lift my shoulder does this ish go away on it's on if I take a break from hitting the weights? or am I doomed to undergo surgery?
weight lifters shoulder or impingement. anybody else have to deal with this?
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Lift how many degrees and in what direction? Is it pain that stops you or is it something else? Try using the other arm to see if you can move it further up if you don't do it actively. How is your in and outward rotation?
It depends entirely on what the problem is. Impingement can have many different causes. Surgery is always a last resort either way though.
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Impingement is also a catch all term in that area. More specifically the cause is most important and determines the length of time needed for healing. Tendons can heal with time off and eccentrics when painless rom is achieved concentrically.
If its nerve, you have an entirely different issue. Especially since you can get nerve pain without it being the nerve as the cause. Bursa inflammation can impinge surrounding area also. Time and reevaluate if you wont go get professionally seen.
If its nerve, you have an entirely different issue. Especially since you can get nerve pain without it being the nerve as the cause. Bursa inflammation can impinge surrounding area also. Time and reevaluate if you wont go get professionally seen.
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Thanks guys I'm going to to five BJJ and weights a rest for a few weeks and hopefully that clears it up. I'm a lil long in the tooth now and it seems like my body aid revolting a voter almost thirty years of working out in one form or another, bulging discs,miffed up shoulder, slightly pulled hammy.
Working out is the one thing after spending time with my children that lowers my stress so well see
Working out is the one thing after spending time with my children that lowers my stress so well see
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Mine took half a year to go away. It was weird since it did not gradually lessen over time but was just gone. Did spend the last few months doing overhead presses for 200 reps with an empty light barbell
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Jack, go see a specialist; either a Sports Doc or a Sports Physiotherapist. They will be able to tell you exactly what's wrong and exactly what you need to do to fix it.
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I have the same problem. went to orthopedic dr and got mri done. I have tears in rotator cuff. doing rehab now to try and get it better. trying to avoid surgery. by the way im 45 and think its from the years of liting approx. 30 years now. when younger in the 80s I would go heavy with behind the neck shouder presses because Arnold was doing them. that's what killed my shoulders. if I could recommend to anyone working out I would say nothing behind the neck all to the front.
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Hope yours goes away. I lifted heavy since I was 14 (39 now) and whent I got up benching near 500 something wasnt right. I had a constant pain in my shoulder that got worse when lifting. I eventually had to have surgery on it twice and now try to stay way from lifting anywhere near that heavy now. Tiger balm and heat patches help too.
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DAMN SOUNDS LIKE ME ALMOST EXACTLY. MY 1 REP MAX WAS 455. MAYBE COULDVE HIT 500 WITH A COMPRESSION SHIRT. sorry for caps lock yelling....too lazy to retype lol.
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Ya they had to remove a bunch of scar tissue and bone spurs, oh and saw down my clavicle. The first dumbass doctor only removed that shit off the outside of my shoulder. Second doc did it right and got under my shoulder etc. Good luck
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A great book to help straighten out shoulder issues is SHOULDER PAIN The Solution & Prevention by John M. Kirsch MD-a longtime orthopedic surgeon.
As the forward reads, the exercises in this book are simple. The book is not.
As the forward reads, the exercises in this book are simple. The book is not.
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Anyone who promotes one exercise as the cure of all ailments is full of it imo. Hanging curing all shoulder issues? That depends entirely. It's basicly traction which is applied by physios during sessions if it's appropriate. Any acute inflammatory state in the shoulder could be aggravated by doing it. Dead hanging requires about 180degrees of abduction and flexion in the shoulder joint, which is basicly full range of motion, so if you have any problems with the scapular humeral rhytm you can't get in that position in the first place. You should under no circumstance start hanging if you have a recent labrum/SLAP tear or a severe rotator cuff tear.
One more thing, did he say that it stretches the coracoid bone? That doesn't make any sense. First of all a bone can't be strecthed and secondy I think he's referring to the coracoid process which is basicly a bumpy part of the scapula. It's not called the coracoid bone.
Anyway lol, with that out of the way, applying traction on yourself by hanging like that is a pretty cool concept. I'm sure it can help people out with stiff shoulders and open up the joint a little. Proper mobility is, almost, always good. Maybe some people with impingement too.
I'd like to read the book, sounds interesting!
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What's the general consensus on the advice "do exercises that don't hurt" for injuries. with a broad self diagnosis like this is it likely he can worsen his situation by using loads/movements that don't hurt? like if overhead pressing an empty bar dosent hurt, but 80% of his 1rm does, is it probably safe and/or beneficial to use the empty bar? or if the Barbell hurts or dB doesnt, or incline doesnt, etc.
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Hard to say. Pain is usually a good indicator in the sense that it will tell you if you are doing something that is provoking an issue. Most important is pain after the exercise I'd say. I mean, sometimes you'll have to train through pain (not adviced unless specified), but if the pain persist after exercise you might want to reconsider. No pain on the other hand doesn't mean that what you are doing is optimal, but it's still a pretty safe bet that you aren't exacerbating the problem acutely.
I'd say the pain free empty bar/incline/db example would be fine even if 80% of 1RM or another angle hurt and so forth, but it most likely wouldn't fix the underlying issue. It's important to stay active either way.
If you are experiencing a serious injury though what you really want is to get it diagnosed. It's hard to instruct specifics if you don't what the cause is. On top of that, everyone is a little bit different and need a little special attention and modification.
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Thanks man. Cool, I'll check up on it when I have some time. So much to learn out there
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I had shoulder impingement and made it worse on myself when I didn't take a break from BJJ. After a bunch of physical therapy I was better but would still get stabbing pains in some parts of my ROM. One day I found "the sleeper stretch" and did it every 30 minutes for a week. That, in addition to a steroid shot, was enough to get me over the hump. Haven't looked back.
