Venezuela, The Starving Socialist Dystopia (Part 1)

[TheTimeIsNotNow]

These commie apologists were far too close to power in Britain for my liking

 

[Rozko]

I hope the people go full Romania on Maduro

 

[Arkain2K]

Then:



Now:

 

[Arkain2K]

The cult of Marx is strong

These commie apologists were far too close to power in Britain for my liking

So what's the mentality in the Labour party, "I'm tired of getting three full meals plus snack and cold beer capped by premium 3-ply toilet paper each and every day, let's get rid of all that and be like Venezuela just to see if that's better"?

 

[Rozko]

So what's the mentality in the Labour party, "I'm tired of getting three full meals plus snack and cold beer capped by premium 3-ply toilet paper each and every day, let's get rid of all that and be like Venezuela just to see if that's better"?

They want to go the Hoffamn, Hanks and Penn route

 

[TheStruggle]

We are watching a real time example of how Socialism always fails and is only one step away from Communism. Leftists hate to be called Communists but don't want anyone bringing up how Pro Hugo Chavez they were right before the country collapsed.

 

[jefferz]

World of Warcraft in game currency is now worth more than Venezuelans real money.

Though we heard about it via The Blaze, Venezuelan Twitter user @KalebPrime tweeted his discovery on July 14, saying that on Venezuela’s black market, which NPR says is the most-used method of currency exchange in the country, you can exchange 8,493.97 bolivars for one U.S. dollar. At the same time, WoW tokens, which can be bought in-game for $20, are worth about 8385 gold per dollar.
Kaleb’s math is a bit out of date now, but time has only decreased the value of the bolivar. Dolartoday.com tracks the value of the bolivar on the black market, and as of this writing, it now takes 12,197.74 bolivars to equal one dollar. This is all mainly because at the moment, Venezuela isn’t in the greatest economic state. In May 2015, it only took 279 bolivars to equal one dollar, but inflation has caused that number to skyrocket.

http://nerdist.com/world-of-warcraft-currency-venezuela/

 

[Oeshon]

World of Warcraft in game currency is now worth more than Venezuelans real money.

http://nerdist.com/world-of-warcraft-currency-venezuela/

Time to start grinding gold.

 

[ShadowRun]

Has Sean Penn went and helped his buddy and people ?

 

[Arkain2K]

 

[Halge]

I'm not really up to date on world politics concerning Venezuela. Do they have a Maecenas the way North Korea has in China?
Are there other countries that would/could conceivably cause trouble for the US if Trump were to, say, invade?
I'm getting the impression that the rest of the South American region doesn't really support Maduro any longer, and as far as other potential allies goes (Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Cuba, Zimbabwe?) they are too weak and isolated to do anything, don't really care, and/or have their own problems.

 

[ShinkanPo]

I'm not really up to date on world politics concerning Venezuela. Do they have a Maecenas the way North Korea has in China?
Are there other countries that would/could conceivably cause trouble for the US if Trump were to, say, invade?
I'm getting the impression that the rest of the South American region doesn't really support Maduro any longer, and as far as other potential allies goes (Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Cuba, Zimbabwe?) they are too weak and isolated to do anything, don't really care, and/or have their own problems.

Zimbabwe will send their best warriors!!


Try this try saying the word Zimbabwe with a zimbabwe accent 6 times it will make feel good.

 

[Arkain2K]

I'm not really up to date on world politics concerning Venezuela. Do they have a Maecenas the way North Korea has in China?
Are there other countries that would/could conceivably cause trouble for the US if Trump were to, say, invade?
I'm getting the impression that the rest of the South American region doesn't really support Maduro any longer, and as far as other potential allies goes (Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Cuba, Zimbabwe?) they are too weak and isolated to do anything, don't really care, and/or have their own problems.

South America look at Venezuela as an embarrassment for them all. They're not gonna do anything to stop the downfall of a dictator who let his people starve.

Nevertheless, unless there's a UN mandate, the West should stay the fuck out and let the Venezuelans sort this domestic shit out in-house, then we can help with the humanitarian and rebuilding process afterwards, after Maduro is inevitably lynched or stoned by his own countrymen.

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Trump was making friends in Latin America — before he raised Venezuela ‘military option’
By Patricia Mazzei | August 11, 2017 10:24 AM

President Donald Trump’s unexpected suggestion Friday that he might rely on military force to deal with Venezuela’s pressing political crisis was an astonishing statement that strained not only credulity but also the White House’s hard-won new friendships in Latin America.

“I’m not going to rule out a military option,” Trump declared to reporters in Bedminster, N.J. “This is our neighbor. We’re all over the world, and we have troops all over the world, in places that are very, very far away. Venezuela is not very far away, and the people are suffering, and they’re dying.”

Flanked by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley, whose faces betrayed some worry, Trump mentioned potential military action unprompted, almost in passing. But his pronouncement will almost certainly not be taken so cavalierly by regional allies the White House had painstakingly and successfully wooed to its side on Venezuela.

By raising the specter of military involvement, Trump appeared to ignore Latin America’s years of weary experience with CIA-backed regime toppling. Countries in the region have not so easily forgotten.

And so, analysts uniformly agreed Friday night: Trump’s threat of an unpopular military action can only set back diplomatic efforts to isolate Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro.

“His temperate approach over the past few weeks has helped build a regional coalition that was very vocal in denouncing and putting pressure on the Venezuelan government,” said Christopher Sabatini, a Columbia University international relations and policy lecturer. “By sounding off now, he has really made it much more difficult for Latin American governments to adhere to what is seen as the U.S. position.

“He’s also, of course, tapped — I think unwittingly — into this deep, deep, legitimate worry and fear of U.S. intervention. This doesn’t play well in Latin America.”

Trump’s off-script remark, contradicting what his own national security adviser said last week, also appears certain to provide political ammunition for Maduro, who has already been railing against “Emperor Trump,” and to muddle the message of Maduro’s weakened opponents, who have long maintained that only Venezuelans can solve Venezuela’s problems.

But above all, Trump risked losing the alliance that, in one of the most striking recent examples of Latin American unity, came together in an emergency meeting held in Peru earlier this week. It drew 17 countries that denounced the “breakdown” of Venezuelan democracy following the inauguration last week of an all-powerful new legislative body loyal to Maduro.

For once, Latin America’s biggest players came together to make the rarest of admissions: When it came to Venezuela, they agreed with Trump.

“What we have in Venezuela is a dictatorship,” Peruvian Foreign Minister Ricardo Luna said Wednesday, speaking for the regional allies and echoing the White House’s same use of the D-word a week earlier.

Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Peru and especially Mexico don’t see eye to eye with Trump on a string of issues — including cracking down on immigration and taking a harder line on Cuba.

But with most of Washington focused on the North Korean nuclear threat, Russian election-meddling investigation and ongoing internal White House intrigue, Trump’s administration had steadily made friends on Venezuela, the one urgent foreign-policy matter that — until Friday night — hadn’t triggered frenzied cable-news debates or, so far, prompted Trump to vent on Twitter.

Their unexpected support explains in part why the White House had appeared to take a more deliberative approach to escalating its response against Venezuela. Trump promised quick economic action. But rushing to impose harsher trade or financial sanctions might have immediately alienated the countries that backed Washington’s rhetoric on Maduro.

“It would be way more efficient if we see these sanctions coming from a multilateral perspective,” said Moisés Rendón, associated director for the Americas program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. “That would add more pressure.”

Among Trump’s friends on Venezuela were presidents he’s spoken to by phone about Venezuela’s economic collapse, a list that includes Pedro Pablo Kuczynski of Peru and Juan Carlos Varela of Panama. Some of the leaders have domestic concerns of their own that align them with Trump: the prospect of having to accommodate a mass exodus of Venezuelans, for example, or fending off internal political opposition from the left.

Vice President Mike Pence is visiting four of the allies — Colombia, Argentina, Chile and Panama — next week, a trip that could give the Trump administration a chance to announce further steps on Venezuela, or at least solidify support following Trump’s offhand military comment.

“What we want is to restore the broken democratic order,” Chilean Foreign Minister Heraldo Muñoz said in Lima on Wednesday, pointedly adding that Chile “does not accept military coups, auto-coups or military uprisings.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article166668742.html

 

[ShinkanPo]

I bet Maduro the not so mighty fatty shit and pissed his pants when Donald Trump expressed that Military solution is not of the table.

He probably thought the Donald does not care about the Venezuela situation enough since there are other more pressing issues like Korea and domestic us politics, I think that phone call was due to Maduro panicking and he just got turned down!!

 

[Arkain2K]

I bet Maduro the not so mighty fatty shit and pissed his pants when Donald Trump expressed that Military solution is not of the table.

He probably thought the Donald does not care about the Venezuela situation enough since there are other more pressing issues like Korea and domestic us politics, I think that phone call was due to Maduro panicking and he just got turned down!!

Not sure if I want to see Uncle Sam getting tangled in this landfill, though. Especially since this is the Socialist shithole that spent the last decade talking shit about Uncle Sam.

I don't want the Commies in London and Hollywood to blame Maduro's mess on the "foreign enemies of the Venezuelan people".

 

[lifelessheap]

Remember when this asshole was almost the President??????

Senator Sanders declared: “These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger.”

 

[lifelessheap]

 

[lifelessheap]

lmao, that is fantastic. Trump blowing off Maduro and basically wanting him to get killed by his people.

Hasn't Maduro been blaming capitalism and the US for years? I mean, how much of an asshole do you have to be to wreck every functioning private business and destroy the economy and blame the US... and then call the POTUS?

Take your fucking medicine and eat lead Maduro.

 

[DannyNL]

Trump needs to kill Maduro and Kim Jong Un. That would immediately make him one of the best presidents of all time.

 

[lifelessheap]

Not sure if I want to see Uncle Sam getting tangled in this landfill, though. Especially since this is the Socialist shithole that spent the last decade talking shit about Uncle Sam.

I don't want the Commies in London and Hollywood to blame Maduro's mess on the "foreign enemies of the Venezuelan people".

Yes! Let them fail. Let them starve. Let this stand as a lesson. Team America doesn't need to get involved.

The silence from Hollywood millionaire communist scum is deafening. The silence from communist Bernie is so sweet.