Upper body takedowns underused in the UFC?

[DanMMAleague]

It's a skill with a deep learning curve, you have to accept you are going to suck for the first six months, most guys just go from fight to fight and hence don't really dabble in it.

It works for guys like Jones, Couture and Hendo who progressed to a Greco specialism.

I remember there was a big thing of Jones saying he had learnt from Judo tutorials on YouTube in his first couple of UFC fights.

 

[DanMMAleague]

Thats not an upper body throw/takedown goof. It 's an outside trip

The leverage comes from the upper body though?

I thought we were talking about anything that is not singles or doubles?

 

[120wrestling]

The leverage comes from the upper body though?

I thought we were talking about anything that is not singles or doubles?

Nah, think about it in wrestling rules. Greco Roman is straight up upperbody takedowns. Any leg attacks, trips, or even using the leg as a pivot for a throw will get you DQ'd. What Romero did was simply overhook Machida so that he could bring him close. And Romero's leg tripped Lyoto, so that Lyoto would lose his footing.

 

[Dan West]

they are higher risk for reversal and very hard to do unless your opponent wants to wrestle you back. if they keep their hips away and low, maybe even posting on your hip, theres not a whole lot you do

It's all about timing. If you set up your body lock and use a knee tap.,,,

 

[ArtemV]

They are mostly harder to do when someone is striking you in the body and face. But we need someone like Vlasov in mma. However, Madsen (who Vlasov beat to win gold at the worlds 2015 and olympics 2016) has tried mma, and this happen

 

[Harmonica]

I'll confirm with my bjj tutor and his black belt judo national team tutor on Thursday if strength is a factor which is what I stated. Not energy. Level changes will cost you energy. And a supplex is much more tiring than a double leg.

Strength often is a factor, I wasn't disputing that. And suplex is not exactly what I had in mind when I mentioned upper-body takedowns. More like trips and hip throws which really don't take that much energy when proper technique, coupled with good timing, is used.