Crime Tyson Foods dumps 87BILLION gallons of toxic waste including cyanide, blood and feces into US rivers and lakes

[Deorum]

So what should happen is everyone in charge in this decision is lined up against a wall and shot. What will happen is a minor fine. Because corporations openly own our government. Lol at so called democracy.

“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.” — Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864

 

[Arashikage4Life]

What do you expect when the only two candidates are geriatric retards who shit their own pants and don't even remember what day of the week it is?

It's pretty much one of those, or don't vote. If you're choosing to vote for either of these 2 candidates you deserve to have your country destroyed.

Well, you're forgetting the part where one of the candidates surrounds themselves with brainless morons who also make terrible decisions while the other one (while still old and doddering) doesn't -- at least for the most part. Just take a look at some of these regressive and archaic rulings in the court system and obsession with culture war crap instead of actual foreign and domestic policy making. One party put those people in place.

 

[Teppodama]

Tyson foods dumps a bunch of toxic shit in your belly every time you eat their foodstuffs, might as well poison the environment as well.

 

[Lucas1980]

Well, you're forgetting the part where one of the candidates surrounds themselves with brainless morons who also make terrible decisions while the other one (while still old and doddering) doesn't -- at least for the most part. Just take a look at some of these regressive and archaic rulings in the court system and obsession with culture war crap instead of actual foreign and domestic policy making. One party put those people in place.

Yeah...but...but...but......Diversity and Inclusion and all that forced Bull Shit.

 

[Sinister]

My post was a response to someone claiming the EPA is no longer functional. So you have no source that shows the Tyson incident could have been avoided if they had a larger budget?

You're looking for a source that shows that an agency is more effective and efficient at its job checking corporate practices if its budget isnt cut?

This dumping problem by a gigantic meat processing company is symptomatic of larger systemic issues:

"The current federal regulations set no limit for phosphorus, and the vast majority of meat processing plants in the US are exempt from existing water regulations – with no way of tracking how many toxins are being dumped into waterways."

“There are over 5,000 meat and poultry processing plants in the United States, but only a fraction are required to report pollution and abide by limits. As one of the largest processors in the game, with a near-monopoly in some states, Tyson is in a unique position to treat even hefty fines and penalties for polluting as simply the cost of doing business. This has to change,” said the UCS co-author Omanjana Goswami.

Tyson alone is responsible for nearly half the political donations on behalf of this industry in Washington via lobbying and campaign donations, and nearly all of that going to anti-regulation Republicans.

And you're suggesting the EPA, with budget cuts and smaller staff, as well as curtailed regulatory ability, can address this problem without more money lol. It takes money to research the new rule structure needed, it takes money to draft it into regulation to be proposed to the Administration, and speaking of money Tyson, via the North American Meat Institute, as usual claims that the reason these regulations shouldn't exist is because it will cost money (and jobs. According to them, because if they dare be regulated of course they're gonna take it out on the workers.)

 

[blackheart]

Tyson Foods dumps 87BILLION gallons of toxic waste scientists reveal

But the study by the Union of Concerned Scientists looked at just two percent of meat processing plants nationwide leaving the total figure terrifyingly uncertain.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Tyson Foods dumps 87BILLION gallons of toxic waste including cyanide, blood and feces into US rivers and lakes- enough to fill 132,000 Olympic-size pools​

The chemicals have been linked with cancer, blood disorders, thyroid disease and brain defects in children

The sheer scale of the poison flowing into the country's rivers and waterways is starting to emerge after scientists took a look at one of America's biggest meat processors.

Tyson Foods released 87 billion gallons contaminated with cancer-causing cyanide, nitrates, chloride, phosphorous and oil directly from 41 plants into public waters across 17 states between 2018 and 2022.

The toxic water would cover 165 square kilometers to a depth of two meters and fill three Olympic-sized swimming pools every hour.

But the study by the Union of Concerned Scientists looked at just two percent of meat processing plants nationwide leaving the total figure terrifyingly uncertain.

The report's authors slam feeble federal regulation and state houses in the pocket of a 'Big Ag' which can pollute with impunity.

'As a multibillion-dollar company, Tyson can treat even hefty fines and penalties for polluting the environment as simply the cost of conducting business its way,' they wrote. 'This has to change.'

'There are over 5,000 meat and poultry processing plants in the United States, but only a fraction are required to report pollution and abide by limits.'

Agriculture consumes more fresh water than any other human activity, and meat processors use nearly a third of that, leaving it awash with toxic chemicals, blood, feces, micro-organisms and pathogens including E. Coli and Enterococcus.

WATER POLLUTANTS DISCHARGED FROM 41 TYSON PLANTS: 2018 TO 2022
POLLUTANT TOTAL DISCHARGE (lbs)
CHLORIDE138,073,780
TOTAL DISSOLVED SOLIDS82,506,383
SULFATE 40,263,163
NITROGEN 34,248,180
TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS 27,644,162
BIOLOGICAL OXYGEN DEMAND (MICRO-ORGANISMS)15,242,691
CHLORIDES AND SULFATES 13,460,291
SODIUM 7,564,800
PHOSPHOROUS 5,061,259
OIL AND GREASE 3,951,391
CHEMICAL OXYGEN DEMAND 2,439,085
CARBONACEOUS 1,041,834
FLUORIDE 76,127
ALUMINUM 57,476
IRON 41,768
BORON 31,759
TOTAL RESIDUAL CHLORINE 8,548
ZINC 5,300
COPPER 1,031
BARIUM 799
FOAMING AGENTS 770
MANGANESE 749
CYANIDE 510
HYDROCARBON 364
TOTAL PHENOLS 165
SELENIUM 164
NICKEL 161
CHROMIUM 73
SILVER 15
MERCURY 0.01
ALL POLLUTANTS 371,722,803

Fifteen states suffer drinking water with higher than permitted levels of nitrates which lead to blood disorders and brain defects in infants, and have been estimated to cause up to 300 cases of cancer a year in Iowa alone.

Half of the contaminants found in the study were dumped into the waters of Missouri, Illinois and Nebraska, including 8,000 tons from Tyson's biggest plant at Dakota City, just 500 feet from the Missouri river.

'This Tyson plant helped put me through college and supports a lot of migrant workers,' Rogelio Rodriguez of Conservation Nebraska told the Guardian.

'But there's a dark side like the water and air pollution that most people don't pay attention to because they're just trying to survive.

'If regulations are lax, corporations have a tendency to push limits to maximize profits, we learnt that during Covid.'

Tyson is poisoning people's water supply and causing health problems.

I don't expect anything to be done about this because it is a multibillion-dollar company.

We need to elect Trump again so he can give Tyson another big tax cut and slash the EPA. That god damn commie deep state leftist EPA is getting in the way of Tyson blessing us with their blood and feces in our natural resources!!!

 

[blackheart]

They should definitely get massive tax breaks, taxpayer subsidies, unlimited stock buy-back options, and less regulations. I mean, this is a no-brainer.

don't forget, we need to destroy the EPA too!

 

[Barteh]

Well, you're forgetting the part where one of the candidates surrounds themselves with brainless morons who also make terrible decisions while the other one (while still old and doddering) doesn't -- at least for the most part. Just take a look at some of these regressive and archaic rulings in the court system and obsession with culture war crap instead of actual foreign and domestic policy making. One party put those people in place.

I'm honestly not even sure which party you're referring to as good and which one as bad in this message.

 

[Mr Holmes]

You're looking for a source that shows that an agency is more effective and efficient at its job checking corporate practices if its budget isnt cut?

Uh no. I'm asking how much more money does the EPA need to prevent this Tyson incident and why the current budget is inadequate.

 

[Sinister]

Uh no. I'm asking how much more money does the EPA need to prevent this Tyson incident and why the current budget is inadequate.

However much is needed to research and update decades-old regulations, assure that giant corporations cannot facilitate exemptions to the newer regulations, draft and propose the new regulations, and enforce them.

The reasons the current budget is inadequate have already been provided. Their staff is smaller, been handed more responsibility, and delegated less regulatory deference.

 

[Mr Holmes]

However much is needed to research and update decades-old regulations, assure that giant corporations cannot facilitate exemptions to the newer regulations, draft and propose the new regulations, and enforce them.

The reasons the current budget is inadequate have already been provided. Their staff is smaller, been handed more responsibility, and delegated less regulatory deference.

Its certainly possible for a smaller staff to still operate. I take it you have no source and no idea how much larger the budget should be.

 

[Sinister]

Its certainly possible for a smaller staff to still operate. I take it you have no source and no idea how much larger the budget should be.

Source for what man? You know this is a disingenuous line of questioning as neither of us are responsible for budgeting and resource allocation in the EPA, or Congress. You've been shown evidence their budget has been cut. You've been shown evidence their staff is Historically small. You've been shown evidence that these regulations are out-dated. You've been shown evidence that Tyson, specifically, has exemptions to current regulations likely due to its sizable politically lobbying.

Why are you insisting on asking for a specific number neither of us could substantiate? If your argument is that their budget IS sufficient to deal with this issue, then you provide your sources to that claim. Provide sources that show how much budget surplus they have versus the cost of researching what the parameters of creating the new regulations is, what the cost of drafting and presenting the new regulations will be, what the cost of enforcement of the regulations will be, and what the cost of the windfall of Court challenges that will result will be. If you have no sources they CAN afford to do all those things with their current budget, then don't demand evidence they cant when they've been declaring the need for better funding for decades.

 

[emefer]

What do you expect when the only two candidates are geriatric retards who shit their own pants and don't even remember what day of the week it is?

It's pretty much one of those, or don't vote. If you're choosing to vote for either of these 2 candidates you deserve to have your country destroyed.

There are more elections than just the one for president and this isn’t a new phenomenon that is only centered around the 2024 presidential election.

 

[Barteh]

There are more elections than just the one for president and this isn’t a new phenomenon that is only centered around the 2024 presidential election.

No shit, the entire senate and congress are old and corrupt, all bought by corporations. That's the whole fucking problem I'm getting at.

Some of these people are multi millionaires within a few years in office, and others have been into these positions for decades. Yes, the specific people with this problem are republicans, but the real problem is way bigger and on both sides.

 

[emefer]

No shit, the entire senate and congress are old and corrupt, all bought by corporations. That's the whole fucking problem I'm getting at.

Some of these people are multi millionaires within a few years in office, and others have been into these positions for decades. Yes, the specific people with this problem are republicans, but the real problem is way bigger and on both sides.

But it’s not both sides trying to get rid of environmental protections. We can see how these people vote.

 

[chardog]

Throughout US History these sorts of industry magnates have always figured out how to get their way. And because of our idea of capitalism, no one takes issue with a small number of men pursuing endless growth of profit via pushing monopolization of entire economic sectors that arguably should be decomodified. MPU just put out a video about water and how the private sector is convincing local municipalities to sell their water:



Last year they put out this one:



These are the people and entities who not only push to corner markets, but then also donate to right wing idealogs for the same 2 reasons every wealthy d*ckhead does. Tax breaks, and loosening of regulations.

I've said before that my wife is a public safety regulator. Her degree is in environmental biology, which makes her a good candidate for the EPA. When we first got together she detailed just how bad their cuts were, and said she didnt gravitate to that because she didnt want to work for a toothless tiger agency. This was 13 years ago. But she initially pursued that degree because of environmentalism.

didnt know that the UC systems and feinstein were "right ring ideologues" and what exactly is right wing about california?

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[blackheart]

Its certainly possible for a smaller staff to still operate. I take it you have no source and no idea how much larger the budget should be.

It's crazy that you're so simple minded that you don't even realize how complex of a question that is.

 

[Sinister]

didnt know that the UC systems and feinstein were "right ring ideologues" and what exactly is right wing about california?

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You dont think there are right wing corporatists in California? Silicon Valley tech Bros much? Lol

Anyway I've maintained throughout this thread that corporatist Democrats who are willing to farm out public resource and peddle political power on behalf of the wealthy class are, in this context, not functionally different than those who are outwardly right wing/Republican. Advocacy for marginalized groups socially only means so much if you allow for your friends of higher economic classes to exploit them.

 

[Mr Holmes]

It's crazy that you're so simple minded that you don't even realize how complex of a question that is.

Its crazy that you're so simple minded to think this is all Trump's fault.

 

[blackheart]

didnt know that the UC systems and feinstein were "right ring ideologues" and what exactly is right wing about california?

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Feinstein absolutely is a right-wing conservative Democrat.