The inherent contradiction of "Fedor wasn't as dominant on American soil"

[Tseren**]

Here is the logical scheme of the argument against Fedor's GOAT-hood:

1. Fedor was dominant in PRIDE (14-0). Wasn't as dominant on American soil (5-3).
2. PRIDE wasn't legitimate because there wasn't a strict drug-testing policy.
3. Fedor has 3 losses on American soil.
4. Therefore, Fedor was exposed.

Flaws in this line of reasoning:

• Dan Henderson and Antonio Silva, the 2 men that beat Fedor, were on Testosterone Replacement Therapy. THEY WERE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO INJECT STEROIDS INTO THEIR BLOODSTREAM IN LIMITLESS AMOUNTS UNTIL FIGHT WEEK... WHERE THEY COULD DROP TO PSEUDO-NORMAL LEVELS (NOT REALLY, BECAUSE THEY COULD STILL HAVE A 4:1 T:E RATIO)
• Dan Henderson and Faricio Werdum were both PRIDE fighters.
• Fedor Emelianenko knocked out Andrei Arlovski and Tim Sylvia on American soil. The 2 fighters that reigned over the UFC Heavyweight division when he reigned over PRIDE. He essentially proved that he was the greatest fighter of his era by beating the 2 men he couldn't fight because of contractual issues.... AND HE BEAT THEM ON AMERICAN-SOIL.

 

[Tormund]

DC ragdolled TRT big foot like he was a teddy bear.

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

Here is the logical scheme of the argument against Fedor's GOAT-hood:

1. Fedor was dominant in PRIDE (14-0). Wasn't as dominant on American soil (5-3).
2. PRIDE wasn't legitimate because there wasn't a strict drug-testing policy.
3. Fedor has 3 losses on American soil.
4. Therefore, Fedor was exposed.

Flaws in this line of reasoning:

• Dan Henderson and Antonio Silva, the 2 men that beat Fedor, were on Testosterone Replacement Therapy. THEY WERE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO INJECT STEROIDS INTO THEIR BLOODSTREAM IN LIMITLESS AMOUNTS UNTIL FIGHT WEEK... WHERE THEY COULD DROP TO PSEUDO-NORMAL LEVELS (NOT REALLY, BECAUSE THEY COULD STILL HAVE A 4:1 T:E RATIO)
• Dan Henderson and Faricio Werdum were both PRIDE fighters.
• Fedor Emelianenko knocked out Andrei Arlovski and Tim Sylvia on American soil. The 2 fighters that reigned over the UFC Heavyweight division when he reigned over PRIDE. He essentially proved that he was the greatest fighter of his era by beating the 2 men he couldn't fight because of contractual issues.... AND HE BEAT THEM ON AMERICAN-SOIL.

People that hate on the GOAT weren't around to appreciate his greatness in context.

 

[RudimarChute]

The only reason

People that hate on the GOAT weren't around to appreciate his greatness in context.

I definitely agree, some of the newer fans don't even know some of the guys from Pride that he beat or the significance they had at the time.

 

[Rovert]

 

[Noraaq]

Everyone that beat Fedor was on drugs. Wasn't an even playing field like Pride.

 

[YellowBaneno]

 

[Not A Real Fan]

The "GOAT" ladies and gentlemen

Owned by a punch drunk UFC castoff.

 

[Rovert]

He is easily the best HW to ever come to MMA till now , Cain could have taken that spot over if Sea level Cain & Injury Cain didn't grace us with there presence but he is 34 now & wasted 3 years fighting the same 2 guys then fighting 2 times in 3 years .

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

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I admire your effort, keep it up

Bro, how did you get my pic?

 

[Rovert]

The "GOAT" ladies and gentlemen

Owned by a punch drunk UFC castoff.

Fighters in there later years is never pretty & Fedor wants to still fight again , guess he needs to wake up ass up face down a few more times

 

[FastTracker]

It's just stupid people,i am a fan of mma since 2010 but i watched a lot of fights in every big promotion and the thing is a lot of people that weren't there when X fighter was at his best, don't know really how good he was. I figured out this with Anderson, in 2010 he was the best at the moment, with all the matrix shit and his striking on point and people were really hyped with him. Now look how they act like Anderson was a can crusher or he was just a meh fighter bassed on his last fights. The same applies to Fedor.

 

[UltimateMoving]

Fedor got exposed thats all

 

[Not A Real Fan]

Fighters in there later years is never pretty & Fedor wants to still fight again , guess he needs to wake up ass up face down a few more times

Ass way up in the air.

 

[Pixelated Porn]

He is easily the best HW to ever come to MMA till now , Cain could have taken that spot over if Sea level Cain & Injury Cain didn't grace us with there presence but he is 34 now & wasted 3 years fighting the same 2 guys then fighting 2 times in 3 years .

dude, the HWs of his era just weren't that good? most of his comp was really not any good. M1/millen was bossing PRIDE around to get him the matchups he wanted and when he wanted

Once, not in that special favoritism and with better calibur fighters, he got fucking EXPOSED. Fucking Bret Rogers who changed tires during the day gave him a hard time. Then 3 losses in a row.

Also, the best fights in pride were shogun and rampage and gil and gomi had some good ones and of course wanderlie

Who are we calling great at HW in pride? Nog? Crocop?

 

[sapporo ichiban]

DC ragdolled TRT big foot like he was a teddy bear.

Everyone has their time. I think ts talking about when he was in is prime and wasn't resorting to the one dimensional style at the end Anyone who cannot see that he changed after pride is blind or just a hater. I got news for you, everyone slows down, even your favorites will to.

 

[DetroitRob]

Sherdog needs to add filters so we can just funnell all these Fedor threads into the shitter.

 

[Rovert]

dude, the HWs of his era just weren't that good? most of his comp was really not any good. M1/millen was bossing PRIDE around to get him the matchups he wanted and when he wanted

Once, not in that special favoritism and with better calibur fighters, he got fucking EXPOSED. Fucking Bret Rogers who changed tires during the day gave him a hard time. Then 3 losses in a row.

Also, the best fights in pride were shogun and rampage and gil and gomi had some good ones and of course wanderlie

Who are we calling great at HW in pride? Nog? Crocop?

His era was the 6'2 220 era , todays is 6'4 240 I get the change , you do realize all those guys Cro Cop , Nog , Barnett etc were all in there 20's back then , just because we have seen all these guys get KTFO at 35 years old does not mean there were not the best guys before .

 

[ExitLUPin]

Anderson, Handy, Chuck etc. weren't as dominant on Japanese soil