The Importance of Fighting Like a Chicken | Diesel Breakdown

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  1. AndyMaBobs

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    The most recent piece I've done breaks down both how I've been taught the muay thai kick and my approach to teaching it to the newer guys I work with!

    Opinions on kick arc size may vary. ;)

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    Why would you want to fight like a chicken? Aren’t they cowardly animals that run away? Being called a chicken is an insult, so why on Earth would I ever advise you to fight like a chicken? Well here, look at this chicken:



    And that video isn’t just there to justify the strangest title for an article you’ll read all day. There is a truth to it. In Thailand there are several fighters and coaches, including Ajarn Surat of Dejrat Gym – who believe that Muay Thai originated from cockfighting, or chicken boxing as it’s also known. While this is obviously a myth (Muay Boran, Pradal Serey and Lethwei all share a common ancestor in the form of Bokator) it is a good analogy for how a fighter should kick.

    When it comes to punching it’s best to be grounded and sitting down on your punches, but kicking is rather different. When targeting the body or the head, you need to do so with minimal effort, and that means the minimum possible stretch from your legs. After all, why have your leg stretch up an extra two inches when you can get that extra height by coming up on your toe as you kick.

    So, what does this have to do with chickens?

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    You can read the rest here: https://www.dieselgym.co.uk/the-importance-of-fighting-like-a-chicken-how-to-kick-diesel-breakdown/
     
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    what do you think of this @AndyMaBobs ?

    The only place i had recently heard of kicking this way was in karate. I was originally taught high up on the toes, as most places teach, and is probably the most common way you will see the kick thrown. But my coach, from france, lived at petchyindee for 1 yr, as well as various other camps for extended periods, fought at lumpinee, and has about 60 pro thai fights was the first person to teach me this way. Once i was taught it, i notice quite a few thais kicking this way. I would still say up on the toes is much more common, but you do see this way quite a bit as well.

     
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    Too much cock......needs more balance.....

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    Both ways definitely work, my right hip is quite weak, so I often kick more flat footed on my left kick because of that. Ultimately most of this is just little things.

    For me I like being up on the toes and fully pivoted round because it brings the hip up and out further with less strain on the leg itself meaning you can kick higher and further with less effort.

    Flat footed definitely works though and I've known a few fighters from my gym who kicked that way
     
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    I find i use both ways unintentionally, i asked saenchai what he thought about it, he said it doesnt matter, you kick higher, go higher on foot.
     
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    Chickens flap their wings when they kick, opening them open to counters to the ribs, don't fight like a chicken......
     
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    You making me hungry talking about chicken wings and ribs.
     
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    Chickens get alot of shit, but they just bang. Fight like a chicken
     
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    Old chicken's end up in soup if they are lucky, most in dog food, don't retire like a chicken.......
     
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    I love ribs, beef short ribs or Jacobs ladder to some.......
     

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