The Hill: FBI informant ”Moscow sent millions to benefit the Clinton”

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  1. SBJJ

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    You currently in Middle School?
     
  2. AnGrYcRoW

    AnGrYcRoW I've done .... questionable things .

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    I'm not laughing because he said fart I find it amusing that he thinks we aren't on a planet ......
     
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    Ahahaha good grief you’re dumb
     
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    I get the joke you're going for but I'm still real annoyed that someone hasn't gone to jail yet for that fuck up.
     
  5. xcvbn

    xcvbn Silver Belt Platinum Member

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    That informant talks a lot. Every answer is a wall of text.

    At this point it's difficult to find who to believe. I think the obvious choice is to hit reset and vote out any and every politician associated with every presidency dating back to Reagan.
     
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    Lololololololol

    x642135
     
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    obama wasn't walked over, he was complicit in all this shit.
     
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  10. Edison Carasio

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    Much like the government on Russia, he'll only believe he got scorched if Trump tells him so.
     
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    This was clearly a Russian trick to fool Clinton and make Trump look good

    Only Russian bots are spreading this
     
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    You don't have to hate every country that tries to further itself. You are being way to simplistic and looking at things through a Neocons eyes.

    If any politician is caught taking bribes(not saying that was done) it's a bad thing. Bad thing on us not the other country. It's actually kinda crazy that you'd read that story and proclaim Russia a "bad" guy but just give our government a pass. Hell, you'd think you'd hold our government to a higher standard. What did Russia do that was bad? They bribed our government officials? The Clintons? They Duped the Obama Admin? So that makes them bad? What does it make our government then!

    Russia is not the boogeyman it's made out to be. And if Hillary would have won we wouldn't be going through this. But now we have a joining of the MSM, the Democratic Party and the Neocon Failures of the Right.
     
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  13. SBJJ

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    Years from now the people screaming RUSSIA will look no different than the reactionaries of the past. Being force fed their info from the MSM and the Intelligence Agencies.

    It will all come out though and I think it will be glorious to see how wrong so many were
     
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    They hate Clinton. They ain't giving her any money.
     
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    The informant has been identified as Douglas Campbell, a lobbyist who acted as a confidential source in the FBI’s investigation of a bribery and kickback scheme involving Vadim Mikerin, the former head of the U.S. division of Rosatom, prior to the approval of the Uranium One deal in 2010. Through his lawyer, Campbell has expressed concerns about the fact that the Uranium One deal was approved despite his informing the agency how corrupt Rosatom was.

    But DOJ officials had their own concerns regarding Campbell’s reliability, summarized as follows in Cummings and Schiff’s letter:

    • Career attorneys initially planned to build their case against Mikerin based on evidence provided by this individual. However, they began to have “serious credibility concerns” because of “inconsistencies” between the individual’s statements and documents they obtained as part of the investigation.
    • After interviewing the individual and reviewing the documents they had obtained, prosecutors determined that there was a “high chance” that he had begun engaging in illegal activity earlier than he initially disclosed—and that he had concealed those actions from the FBI.
    • As a result, Justice Department officials working the case began to have “serious concerns” with using the individual as a witness. They “assessed” that the individual “would not present as a good witness” and “did not want to rely on him at trial.”
    • Because Justice Department officials could not trust this individual, they decided instead to pursue alternate charges against Mikerin that would not rely on his testimony.
    • Justice Department officials said it was a “godsend” that they had another avenue to charge Mikerin that relied on evidence other than this individual’s testimony. Mikerin ultimately was sentenced to 48 months in prison in 2015 for money laundering and violating the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
    • Justice Department officials confirmed that they do not plan to use the testimony of this individual in any future prosecution.
    • Most importantly, Justice Department officials explained that this individual never provided any evidence or made any allegations regarding Secretary Clinton or the Clinton Foundation in any of their interactions with him.
    Cummings and Schiff say Republican committee leaders have denied Democrats access to the informant for months, all the while issuing statements about how important his testimony will be. The Democrats’ letter opens with a request for a transcript of an interview the Republicans say they have scheduled with Campbell some time this week.
     
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    The aiding and abetting of an illegal element
     
  17. Ham Socks

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    Can you be less super ultra vague?


    What "illegal element" were they "aiding"?
     
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    That's not a thing. Aiding and abetting has to be of a crime. "an illegal element" is just a mishmash of words.
     
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    I'm being simplistic when I never said anything about "hate"? It's far more simplistic to reduce what I said to "hate", rather than manage the complexity of what I actually said. o_O

    Then you took your over-simplification of what I said and labelled me a Neocon based on your simplification.

    If you're not saying that taking bribes occurred then why should we be interpreting this story through that lens?

    Think through what you wrote: You're not saying a crime occurred but, even if the crime didn't occur, we should still judge the parties as if the crime did occur.:confused: Nothing says irrational bias like "I'm going to judge you for doing a bad thing, even if I don't think you did it."

    Also, I didn't proclaim Russia as "bad", once again you simplified something. I said the situation was bad from a geopolitical strategy perspective. Bad for the U.S. Which a statement about our country, not Russia.

    I've said it before and it bears repeating - you have lost your bearings. You're trying to chastise me for things I didn't say. You're simplifying complex points down to "You must hate them." And then when I criticize the U.S., you still read it as a criticism of Russia because that's what you want to believe I think regardless of what I actually wrote.

    You have devolved to simply disagreeing with whatever I post, regardless of the content. You're not even thinking about it anymore. You probably see my username, filter my words through some anti-panamaican filter and then fire off these missives.

    Re-read my post.
     
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    1. Name one time in the last 30 years where the FBI acted hyper partisan...it's Trumps attack line of the month, nothing factual about it.

    2. Socialism is a form of government As well, try actually reading your link. furthermore almost nothing about Russia is socialist at all. Again you only used that term because it's one of the Republicans buzz words. And yeah they are a democracy, might be a shock to you that people actually vote over there. I know this doesn't fit into your narrative, but facts matter

    3. Its called google, I know you trumpets never look anything up but due give it a try...

    4. This is why people don't debate Trump fans... if Russia only helps one side of a election, through millions of dollars of state funding devoted to it and with great geopolitical risks involved. Logic would ask why they took such a expensive or dangerous risk to help said candidate....but you live in a world where Russia did it "to pwn democrats" with no other motive whatsoever. Btw the recent declassified documents say the investigation started years ago. Again reading is fundamental.

    5. Mike Flynn is one of the people, and seeing he was Trumps national security adviser, it's a big deal. And we don't know what he confessed to but it was bad enough that he agreed to a deal to rat out others in the administration. He wouldn't do that for a none crime, again mouth closed, brain open. You also have His campaign manager, and numerous others that have confessed. We will know more once mueller releases his findings

    Stop watching Fox...
     
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