The Destruction of a Division [Sherdog's headline article]

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  1. McGruber

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    Really good article on the front page of Sherdog, which highlights how these 'cheap belt grabs' are putting MMA Belts on the fast track to boxing belts.

    Why is this important: Because eventually we will reach a point where the best never fight the best. Instead we will have a top guy fighting the #15 ranked guy so long as he can sell PPV's.


    http://www.sherdog.com/news/article...tion-of-a-Division-130191#7PQ5vo6D35G7EYoL.99
     
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    Blame Dana, and McGregor.

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    I blame Dana for allowing this mess to happen.
     
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    Tony fought a 10th ranked guy for his belt, Conor the lineal champ.

    Tony is watering down the division, deal with it.
     
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    I saw the thread title and thought that the UFC was finally scrapping the flyweight division. I'm disappointed now.
     
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    Except the fight immediately after this mess is Rockhold vs Whittaker, or 2 of the best 3 mws in the world.

    Also current title fights scheduled

    #1 HW vs #2 HW
    #1 LHW vs #2 LHW
    #1 MW vs #3 MW

    Yea rankings don't mean shit
     
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    People seem to ignore the incurable disease that GSP was diagnosed with.


    Is this guy suggesting that GSP should fight with colitis flaring up? Or is he suggesting that GSP should have held the belt hostage while he tries to learn to live with colitis.

    Seriously, ulcerative colitis sucks.
     
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    Your pussy bitch boy refuses to fight, so who else is tony going to fight? Conor is a coward, he's afraid to fight. Tony alright set fire to the division and Conor is the last one left, running like he always does. Conor is a fake champion.
     
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    I think he's suggesting that GSP has "colitis".
     
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    Lmao, "set fire to the division"? Tony's beaten two guys currently in the top 10. That's hardly setting fire to the division. Hell, Conor has beaten three in the top 7.

    Conor has also never refused a fight. Another fallacy spewed by you. Tony is injured and Conor can't beat him up yet. Deal with it.
     
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    I blame Riddick Bowe
     
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    He seems to be insinuating that there's an alternative route that could have retained the integrity of the belt, yet he doesn't suggest it.

    Is he just complaining that the fight happened in the first place?



    This insinuates that, in contrast with GSP'S situation with the WW belt, you can fault GSP for vacating the MW belt, which is dumb and leads back to my first post.
     
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    I blame that racist Keaton kid and also wmma
     
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    Yeah it sucks. I have Crohn's disease and still compete though. I think what GSP did was bullshit. UC varies from case to case but GSP's excuses have always served him conveniently.
     
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    I mean, there clearly was multiple alternative routes that would have not only retained the integrity of the division but 100% generated more profits than Hendo v Bisping and Bisping v GSP combined.

    A Bisping v Rockhold rematch. Hendo v Bisping did one of the lowest numbers in UFC MW championship history. The shit talking alone for a Rockhold v Bisping rematch would have been decent.

    Bisping v [Insert Jacare, Romero, Mousasi, Weidman etc]. All would have done bigger numbers than Hendo, but the bigger point is that the MW belt could have been defended in Q1 2017. mid 2017, and then Nov 2017 [Even including GSP if he was still game to face a MW not named Bisping].

    Three title fights would have easily eclipsed the PPV numbers of GSP's return.

    Instead, Weidman was mismanaged to 0-3 after being a 7 figure PPV guy following his wins over Silva. Mousasi saw no chance at ever getting a title shot and went to Bellator. Rockhold was forgotten. Romero and Jacare were both forced to take more fights when they had already done enough for a title shot. At their age, they'll likely never fight for a title at all.

    When he says the destruction of the division, they pretty much did destroy what was close to if not the most stacked division in the UFC and reduce it to trash. Now the best guy in the division [Whittaker] doesn't even have a lineal belt to fight for.

    Re: Faulting GSP for leaving the MW belt - It's fair. A.) He should have never gone to a division where he never had any intention of defending and B.) If he wasn't going to be ready until the end of 2017, he shouldn't have been calling Bisping out three weeks after his title win in June of 2016. He did this specifically to lock up the fight, which ultimately stalled the division.
     
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