So Topuria is #5 p4p...

[FlyingDeathKick]

Why??? Volk is a great win but after that who's his best win? Emmett?? Then Bryce? Imo Max, Allen, Evloev, Yair and Ortega are all better than Emmett. I also think Kattar got robbed against Emmett.

I get Volk is amazing and all but even if he didn't get ko'd in his previous fight before facing Topuria, is that 1 win on it's own really enough to get a top 5 p4p spot? For reference Max was ranked #14 p4p before beating Gaethje...

Everybody knows MMA Math doesn't work so we can't say Topuria beat Volk so that means he'd beat everybody Volk beat including Max!! It doesn't work like that.

Topuria is very good but when you look at the names Max beat and compare it to Topuria's list does it really make any sense to have him ahead of Max?

Illia Topuria wins: Yousef Jalal, Damon Jackson, Ryan Hall, Jai Herbert, Bryce Mitchell, Josh Emmett, Volkanovski and 8 guys with no wiki page before making it to the UFC

Max Holloway wins... Well actually for Max I'm not going to list them all as their is too Many... Andre Fili, Clay Collard, Akira Corossani, Cole Miller, Cub Swanson, Charles Oliveira, Jeremy Stephens, Ricardo Lamas, Anthony Pettis, Jose Aldo x2, Brian Ortega, Frankie Edgar, Calvin Kattar, Yair Rodriguez, Arnold Allen, Korean Zombie, Justin Gaethje...

That list includes guys that have won the undisputed belt in Aldo, Pettis, Oliveira and Edgar. Gaethje won an Interim belt. Llamas, Ortega, Yair and KZ all fought for belts. Arnold Allen was on a 10 fight UFC win streak...

Then we have Emmet and Bryce for Topuria... Ik the rankings are always nonsense but come on now.

Edit: for reference after beating Ortega Holloway was #4 p4p. 13 fight win streak, 2 wins over Aldo, wins over Ortega, Swanson, Stephens, Llamas, Pettis, Oliveira etc..

 

[mjoln]

Pro tip: p4p list is like jamahal's footwork

 

[GluttonforPunishment]

Don't let it bother you. It's spectacle for promotion. If he gets beat he'll probably not be on the list.

 

[World eater]

You mean the popularity list that was invented so that the small guys can be compared to the big guys with the premise that they somehow get proportionally enlarged and magically retain speed and agility as if they were still small? That list is very important and scientifically sound. Even more important than the regular lists where Stipe is top 5 until Jon returns. Only the goat list tops it.

 

[DiazSlap]

Topuria would smesh Max…

He is not a brawler like Gatjhe, he is a technical boxer with outstanding wrestling.

Topuria looking “scared” after Max’s callout is one of dumbest narratives in the history of Sherdumb.

 

[gentel]

He's just that good, he dealt with Mitchell and Hall in the grappling, and he knocked out Volk, and put one of the biggest beatings in UFC history on Josh Emmett

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

Topuria would smesh Max…

He is not a brawler like Gatjhe, he is a technical boxer with outstanding wrestling.

Topuria looking “scared” after Max’s callout is one of dumbest narratives in the history of Sherdumb.

lolol

He did tho.

Guy was all kinds of shook up.

Optics were terrible.

 

[Brigfa2]

You mean the popularity list that was invented so that the small guys can be compared to the big guys with the premise that they somehow get proportionally enlarged and magically retain speed and agility as if they were still small? That list is very important and scientifically sound. Even more important than the regular lists where Stipe is top 5 until Jon returns. Only the goat list tops it.

Yeah lol they always keep the advantages of being small when they say shit like if Mighty Mouse was 250 lbs

 

[Siver!]

lolol

He did tho.

Guy was all kinds of shook up.

Optics were terrible.

It was funny, I don't think it will make any difference though.

Can't wait for that fight now, before the Gaethje fight I didn't even want it lol

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

It was funny, I don't think it will make any difference though.

totally agree.

Illia should have been more on his game tho. Done a throat slash or something lol

 

[Rapa]

Why? Bcs when they will fight ilia will dominate and finish max.

 

[Rapa]

lolol

He did tho.

Guy was all kinds of shook up.

Optics were terrible.

Dont delete this post i am going to laugh at it after ilia beats max

 

[Poirierfan]

What I think about P4P list and Rankings.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

lolol

He did tho.

Guy was all kinds of shook up.

Optics were terrible.

As a shookologist, Topuria was waiting for a translation from Max's CTE infused Hawaiian accent.

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

As a shookologist, Topuria was waiting for a translation from Max's CTE infused Hawaiian accent.

man, maybe...... But even still he should have sparked the fuck up at hearing his name tho.

Should have been trying to enter the cage for a face off.

Where was that 'slap the hand sanitiser and try to jump the counter' energy when it mattered most?

 

[FlyingDeathKick]

Topuria would smesh Max…

He is not a brawler like Gatjhe, he is a technical boxer with outstanding wrestling.

Topuria looking “scared” after Max’s callout is one of dumbest narratives in the history of Sherdumb.

What you think would happen in that fight is irrelavent.. The fact is between Emmett and Volk there is Max Holloway, Brian Ortega, Yair Rodriguez, Movsar Evloev and Arnold Allen... Topuria hasn't fought any of those guys and just won the belt, without the win over Volk he wouldn't even be anywhere near the p4p rankings.

 

[OldFashion]

Topuria would smesh Max…

He is not a brawler like Gatjhe, he is a technical boxer with outstanding wrestling.

Topuria looking “scared” after Max’s callout is one of dumbest narratives in the history of Sherdumb.

Ilia isn't this mythical goat fighter yet bro calm down. he beat a Volk who just got ko'd viciously by Islam and came back too early + hit the 35 years old mark.
We've already seen moments where he looks vulnerable. Even Bryce fucking Mitchell managed to crack him in their fight. Don't count out the blessed

 

[DiazSlap]

What you think would happen in that fight is irrelavent.. The fact is between Emmett and Volk there is Max Holloway, Brian Ortega, Yair Rodriguez, Movsar Evloev and Arnold Allen... Topuria hasn't fought any of those guys and just won the belt, without the win over Volk he wouldn't even be anywhere near the p4p rankings.

So ko-ing Volk is no big deal? Got it…

Your take is beyond useless

 

[DiazSlap]

man, maybe...... But even still he should have sparked the fuck up at hearing his name tho.

Should have been trying to enter the cage for a face off.

Where was that 'slap the hand sanitiser and try to jump the counter' energy when it mattered most?

Topuria wants that McGregor payday…Max is not going to give him that.

He does not give 2 F’s about Max’s fighting ability.

 

[DiazSlap]

Ilia isn't this mythical goat fighter yet bro calm down. he beat a Volk who just got ko'd viciously by Islam and came back too early + hit the 35 years old mark.
We've already seen moments where he looks vulnerable. Even Bryce fucking Mitchell managed to crack him in their fight. Don't count out the blessed

He does not need to be mythical goat to beat up Max