shooting on guys who are southpaw

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  1. flikerstance floridaman

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    its so awkward shooting a traditional double leg on a southpaw also a sweep single is awkward as well if you have the same stance that's why i go for high head inside singles when i have the same stance but doubles on southpaws become more like blast doubles i only wrestle left leg forward due to how i fight as well.
     
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  2. Calibur Jiu Jitsu Snob

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    I'm sure there is a question in there somewhere lol.

    Anyway, if I want to shoot a double when I'm in an open stance (orthodox against southpaw) as opposed to a closed stance (southpaw vs southpaw or orthodox vs orthodox) I take different approaches depending on the sport.

    In bjj or wrestling I will clinch and then circle to my left. If I'm properly clinched and I pull them correctly their left leg will come forward putting them in an orthodox stance or a parallel stance. Then I can do a normal double.

    If I'm doing MMA I don't try to change their stance. Instead I shoot off a right straight as opposed to shooting off a jab. Just step forward with the right hand and you'll be southpaw for a split second and you can shoot. That takes practice.

    Or you can just back them into the cage/ropes where their feet become parallel and you can shoot a normal double.

    In Judo (which I suck at) I just have a set of moves I do on southpaws but Judo is weird since I'm Judo a "southpaw stance" is orthodox.
     
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  3. flikerstance floridaman

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    its just so awkward shooting a double mma on a lefty i have a great single double against orthodox but my single sucks on southpaws feels so awkward for 10 years iv shot practiced against right handed guys southpaws i usually end up blast doubling its hard to get in deep like your traditional double.
     
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  4. biscuitsbrah Black Belt

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    Just step with the right hand (MMA)
     
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  5. jack36767 Brown Belt

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    I lead my left leg wrestling.. so 90% of the people I wrestled led their right so I had an open stance matchup..

    Singles should be easier because their closer, doubles were a good shot for me and turned into single legs naturally . it's a rep issue dude,just put in reps

    Watch Alex Dieringer and GSP for examples
     
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  6. Burke72 White Belt

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    Outside sweep singles are money in open stance, also my favorite time to shoot low singles.
     
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  7. Rico #breadheadtopteam

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    I lead right but am actually left handed which paid some dividends in MMA sparring
     
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  8. rmongler Brown Belt

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    The only answer is to just practice more on guys who lead with the right leg.
     
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  9. davou White Belt

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    You need to engage the person and move to force them to backstep or step forward onto the leg you want to shoot on. Or else adapt to a different shot. This is why wrestlers spend so much time shrugging off grips and preventing tieups.
     
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  10. jack36767 Brown Belt

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    Um dude sweep singles are head inside shots
     
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  11. SummerStriker Black Belt

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    That's sort of like the JKD idea of having right handed people lead left. It's controversial because most people can't knock someone out with their off hand.
     
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  12. Rico #breadheadtopteam

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    My dad taught me to wrestle by actually making me mimic and drill his exact movements (he was a PA state qualifier and I Marine so imagine my childhood lmao) so I ended up wrestling "right handed". He also made me box too (which I still do along with BJJ...Coach MMA) but didn't teach me that himself so I was able to take my "natural" stance. Just a lucky coincidence that it worked out so well for MMA purposes.

    I pass guard to the left too so I'm quite the conundrum lol.
     
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  13. SummerStriker Black Belt

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    People that pass to the left are annoying.
     
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