International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15
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Zelensky is Talking that Ukraine wants to start next round of talks about EU accession.
Ppl are hyped about some small tiny villages in Harkov oblastj.
While Russia is increasing assault potential in Donetsk oblastj by delivering more MRLS systems and heavy artillery ....
Crimea stuff : I had posted in 2022 th that only option for Ukr might be " starve out " them not to take with ground forces this Crimea and that without nuke Russia will not be kicked put form Crimea and after nuke no one will need this peninsula, therefore nuke will not be used.
Ofc Ukraine can't recognize Crimea as part of Russia, otherwise this will be step in road to ease sanctions on Russis...
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F-15 will still suck a ton of crap into the engines, not as bad as the F-16, but still bad enough to ground it before too long. There's more than just air intake placement when it comes to keeping debris out of the engines.
The MiG 29 has a 2nd set of air intakes on TOP of the wing roots just behind the pilot, you can see the slotted rectangular openings in this picture. During takeoffs & landings the main air intake on the bottom is closed off and all the air goes in through the top, this keeps things from getting sucked off the ground & into the engine.
Sukhoi Flanker series (Su-27, 30, 33, 34, 35) doesn't have the 2nd set of top mounted intakes, but they all have a blower device on the front wheel which blows away all the debris on the ground so that it doesn't get sucked into the engines. That funny looking wheel cover on the nose wheel is actually a blower that clears the ground of debris, Su-57 and Tu-160 also have the blower device since they don't have top mounted intakes like the MiG-29 and Tu-22M.
This doesnt address the problem that theyre migs and Sus are insanely old
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You're not wrong but I think if there's to be a significant impact there needs to be some recent blocks and what Ukraine needs is something to make a significant impact.
They can be a massive improvement over what Ukraine has now but the numbers are the numbers. We're not going to match them 1 for 1 so they need to be significantly better than their peer.
Which is certainly a possibility with how many upgrades it's gotten... but F-16 needs upgrades because it's never going to have 5th gen RCS.
See further
Shoot further
Be harder to detect
Hopefully this is the cause of the delays. The A2A missiles they're getting are no joke but you want a clear advantage in at least 2 of the 3 areas.
It's what we've claimed all along. Quality over quantity.
Guess we'll find out soon enough.
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This is nothing new. UKR will not likely gain back any territory via ground battles. The question is how long can Russia fund and supply zombies for the special military operation going forward with no end in sight.
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Probably longer than Ukraine will get supplies from the West.
To Putin, this is existential. To the West, this is about money and politics. Putin is willing to bankrupt Russia to win.
Someone really is thinking that West or East wants Ukr to win? Actions already had answer for really thinking ppl.
And no, it isn't just about money or loud politics talks.
Yes, uncle Putin is allowed to brainwash his population with propaganda talks that russia is in danger and these ants are fighting vs NATO and collective west etc bullshit , including fairy tales about proxy war ( unfortunately for ukr it isn't proxy war at all otherwise they had been supplied more generously and damn considerably faster without long talks ).
However yup, a lot of things are done IMHO cos money. For europe cheaper is to pump some money in rather than to see Ukraine and Moldova 404 and xx xxx xxx xxx more refugees they never will get to rid off ....
And yes, for U.S this too is very important because europe is largest trade partner for them and also very important investments object etc stuff...More than maga fans are dreaming about. U.S too does have euro investments , businesses etc stuff ....
China IMHO does care not to allow Russia easily to win and not to loss completely. Main task is to weaken Russia demographically and financially as much as it will be possible in order to get more impact in Russia and to achieve deRusification of Siberia for a reason. Literally slowly turn Siberia into Chinatown without direct war...m
Dreams about new axis are like this: subjugated Ukraine plus Belarus and Iran together with North Korea and Russia = such axis will have more negotiation power to make something under the table with China...about new world order....
If Russia really had used North Korean missiles in Ukraine things are even worse for West: not likely Russia had needed to get 20-40 missiles from NK cos they doesn't have missiles.
Most likely reason was to use Ukr as testing polygon for NK missiles program.
If Russia really had used North Korean missiles in Ukraine things are even worse for West: not likely Russia had needed to get 20-40 missiles from NK cos they doesn't have missiles.
Most likely reason was to use Ukr as testing polygon for NK missiles program.
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That's true but still not main point
Crimea and east likely are gone, position to reach is have rest of Ukraine under real NATO's protection, because seems clear war done with simple western support can't stop Putin but just slow him down
The problem (well, one of problems) to me seems Russia's superior ability at buil up defense in conquered territories
That's the problem with western support, it's like west wish was possible keep going 50% (while attempting to please all internal bullshit) at it and win, while at this point should be clear it's not going to happen and we even get outraged at daily predictable outcome (helping the argument of pieces of shit that wish we abandon/betray Ukraine)
Seems like our support still is proportionate to that "at some point russians will end energies/weapons and our half ass help will be enough to allow ukranian meat to win", problem with this is that will work if ukranians had strong safer defense positions and russia was daily destroying itself attacking, but we know in reality Ukraine forces are getting deteriorated at least as fast as russian's
May even be true that west may keep pump there money/toys till an "advantage", but on human side they're not sending there fresh new soldiers while russian storage of new bodies seems still immense
I think you're overestimating "Team West" ability to work functionally picking our most desireable outcome
EU is a farce composed of lot different interests
USA situation is a mess where the mummy vs traitor cunt contest seems more important
To begin with good luck at make everybody agree on wich is our most desireable outcome to begin with, let alone run a straight line to reach it
This for China is not best scenario (would have preferred Russia not doing any of this Ukraine invasion shit) but indeed best scenario given current cards
For the west is some sort of "bright side" of a situation that overall is shaping up as a defeat
And i'm not even talking about Ukraine itself
To me it is, but some would say Finland and Sweden joining NATO compensate
But most big shit is realize (very predictable, but different see it happen) how our model of power is too complex to move fast and hard, and this risk in long run to result into many many "small defeats" that can be played down by our leaders as long one does'nt consider all these as a whole huge problem
All this while would have been much better find a fast solution (sound simplistic but it is what it is) to take a strong defensive stance, because in upcoming years we have worse problems that have nothing to do with Putin (but that Putin can and will make worse, see his presence in Africa)
West is obtusely sticking to the sinking boat of peace-time "values" and attitude, while world is changing fast
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Damning analysis on the lack of Ukrainian defensive preparedness around Kharkiv from a very pro-Ukrainian source
amp.theguardian.com
How Russia has advanced in Kharkiv despite warnings attack was coming | Ukraine | The Guardian
Shortage of munitions, fighters and air defences leaves Ukraine unprepared to repel attack
amp.theguardian.com
Financially EU isn't farce and they already had provided considerably more assistance than U.S. Even without mentioning warrant letters for loans. While some countries really are like half died helix ( snails ) about military assistance instead to check their very old Cold War era stockpiles and believe me, it wasn't just 2% from GDP invested.
Ukr still does have resources and manpower to deploy some 4 brigades size units immediately , while if they had enough ammo and weapons, maybe 8 brigades size ....today.
To except undersupplied troops without airforce support to do offensive in area protected with industrial scale minefields and decent fortifications protected by army who does have advantage in artillery and drone usage
....masterpiece of deUkrainisation of Ukraine IRL.
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Russian propagandists making me laugh 
Blinken going on gastronomic tours to Ukraine. Only don't feed him with lard and borscht as these are Russian dishes hahahaha, oh god. Love it
Blinken going on gastronomic tours to Ukraine. Only don't feed him with lard and borscht as these are Russian dishes hahahaha, oh god. Love it
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How in your opinion plausible is opinion that when Blinken first met with Xi month or 2 months ago he made agreement with China something along the lines:' you helping Russia, we helping Ukraine, force them both to the negotiating table under a threat of withdrawing support'?
West can't pressure Russia to sit at the table and so China can't pressure Ukr. But they can certainly threaten parties they are helping.
West can't pressure Russia to sit at the table and so China can't pressure Ukr. But they can certainly threaten parties they are helping.
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