International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[SandisLL]

Biggest problems are that assistance is expressed in $ ...while for example if U.S supply old scheduled for decommision arty shells etc this doesn't reduce U.S capacity to defend against China at all, just saves taxpayers money scheduled for decomissioning.....
U.S does have more modern models of shells and if there will be war with China, it will be naval type war.... where torpedoes and missiles will play huge role....

 

[PEB]

Well Mike Johnson has declared he will vote for Israel an Ukraine aid this week. Later he was photographed with Trump in the background, an was not so definitive about Ukraine aid great stuff Trump still pulling strings.

Trump looked evil in the photo all red faced an his arms folded. Mike still bowing to Trump from the looks of it. In an odd twist MTG an Steve Bannon attacking Mike like he is a raging operative for the deep state.

 

[PEB]

Well he is pulling shxt stunts as predicted saying it's to win approval by congress horse crap.

"separate votes on aid for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan and several foreign policy proposals, according to Republican lawmakers."

 

[PEB]

Great interview over Putin and Yevgeny Prigozhin on a boat an Prigozhin was Putin Chef at the time lol. David is full of sh$t "It all fell apart when Biden took office" dude a D-Bag.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Well Mike Johnson has declared he will vote for Israel an Ukraine aid this week. Later he was photographed with Trump in the background, an was not so definitive about Ukraine aid great stuff Trump still pulling strings.

Trump looked evil in the photo all red faced an his arms folded. Mike still bowing to Trump from the looks of it. In an odd twist MTG an Steve Bannon attacking Mike like he is a raging operative for the deep state.

Hopefully it's not just smoke and mirrors and is the real deal. With what Mike has been doing it could be a chance for him to just kick the can down the road for even longer.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Russia is not going to occupy the entirety of Ukraine and Ukraine isn't getting back any of the occupied territories.

Let's use the capture of entire Donbass as the goal post, which would mean a collapse in Ukranian defenses. We'll use pro-UA DeepStateMAP as reference rather than pro-RU Suriyakmaps to be fair.

DeepStateMAP | Map of the war in Ukraine

News of Russia's war against Ukraine on the map

deepstatemap.live

If Ukraine and Russia agrees to a ceasefire (followed by frozen conflict), we consider it a draw.

My 8 months prediction was made in late November last year, so let's revisit in July. I'm ready. Are you?

Sure, and that is a great pic of our emperor

 

[SandisLL]

Sure, and that is a great pic of our emperor

Like both clowns dems and reps....both huge traitors like Putin....nothing had changed.

 

[SandisLL]

Some % of MAGA stuff wants to correct and separate bills. This means that they will get back to Senate...and then again back to House.
IF House will manage to vote for Israel bill as separate bill, then most likely nor border bill nor Ukr bill will be voted for till January 2025 th ...
Cos dMAGA needs to prove dems and other wings of reps as incapable to work....
Only one thing MTG and CO cares about is Israel bill......they badly wants to accept this.

 

[SandisLL]

White House isn't willing to accept Israel bill as standalone bill cos they does know that MAGA wants to turn House into Knesset No2....and definitely will stalemate all other bills after this IF Israel bill will be accepted...all bills till POTUS election IF will be possible. MTG is more awful than MAGA Mike and will not allow. She is worse than even Trump..

 

[Strychnine]

 

[SandisLL]

Well he is pulling shxt stunts as predicted saying it's to win approval by congress horse crap.

"separate votes on aid for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan and several foreign policy proposals, according to Republican lawmakers."

If any bare thing in bill is changed this always usually means that bill is going back to Senate! And after processing in Senate and then back to House.

It is sneaky way to delay all decisions, not only border, ukr or Israel bill. Xx other bills too....

While I think that MTG is responsible here....she threats to attempt impeachment procedure to get rid of Mike if he will put Ukr aid bill on the table to vote for. While both Mike and MTG wants House to vote for Israel bill first even before border bill or other bills. .
Situation in House is awful and paraplegic mode.

 

[SandisLL]

There IMHO only one way to pass any bill quickly is to offer bill for Ukr and Israel in one package and border bill as separate package. MAGA loves Israel in reality and most likely will accept such bill.
While border bill is main tool for them to get stuff for campaign and to make Trump elected as POTUS again.

 

[PEB]

House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries pledged in a letter to lawmakers to do “everything in our legislative power to confront aggression” around the globe, and he cast the situation as similar to the lead-up to World War II.

“The gravely serious events of this past weekend in the Middle East and Eastern Europe underscore the need for Congress to act immediately,” Jeffries said. “We must take up the bipartisan and comprehensive national security bill passed by the Senate forthwith.”

Democrats have also circulated a last-ditch option, known as a discharge petition, that could force a floor vote on the aid without the speaker’s approval. The petition has gained 195 lawmakers’ signatures, leaving it about a dozen votes shy of the majority it

 

[AWilder]

Well Mike Johnson has declared he will vote for Israel an Ukraine aid this week. Later he was photographed with Trump in the background, an was not so definitive about Ukraine aid great stuff Trump still pulling strings.

Trump looked evil in the photo all red faced an his arms folded. Mike still bowing to Trump from the looks of it. In an odd twist MTG an Steve Bannon attacking Mike like he is a raging operative for the deep state.

these guys love russia so much i think they should spend some time there. like the rest of their time.

 

[PEB]

Nails it.
"At this point, coming up with the twisted process that was announced yesterday, will only further delay. Best-case scenario, if they pull this together — maybe two months from now — we’re able to figure this out, once it goes back to the Senate with all of these additional provisions that the Senate has to sort its way through … that is basically boiling Ukraine to death slowly,” he said."

 

[PEB]

these guys love russia so much i think they should spend some time there. like the rest of their time.

Speaking the silent part out loud like I said nearly at the beginning of the war. Putin big plan is to reshape the world order and Trump being President will complete the deal to put Russia at the front. So a half a million dead is just part of Putin's process. How evil are these people Saudi Arabia may have given Israeli PM " Benjamin Netanyahu " what he always wanted an oil pipeline through Israel a trade route worth 100's of billions to Benjamin Netanyahu to the Mediterranean Sea bypasses the current trade route.

 

[Strychnine]

My brother went on the "Highway Of Death" in the 1st Iraq war after the coalition hit it. We're both veterans and have been deployed. He told me what he saw on that highway...

ONCE.

And he's never spoken about it since.

 

[curryjunkie]

these guys love russia so much i think they should spend some time there. like the rest of their time.

Imagine having to leave global security matters to a cunt called troy...who thinks the orange fuckwit has any influence on Putin...

 

[SandisLL]

Speaking the silent part out loud like I said nearly at the beginning of the war. Putin big plan is to reshape the world order and Trump being President will complete the deal to put Russia at the front. So a half a million dead is just part of Putin's process. How evil are these people Saudi Arabia may have given Israeli PM " Benjamin Netanyahu " what he always wanted an oil pipeline through Israel a trade route worth 100's of billions to Benjamin Netanyahu to the Mediterranean Sea bypasses the current trade route.

Briben and his administration too are clowns game and always will be. They doesn't want to provide Ukr long range missiles and fighter jets from their own stockpiles. Instead they wants to make Europe to deplete stockpiles while Mr Briben when Huelensky had visited had told that U.S will not supply long range missiles for Ukr and sooner or later dreamer Huelensky will talk with Mr Putin . Doesn't matter who will be elected Trump or Biden. U.S is weak, living in fear and wants to continue business with Russia and had literally sold Ukraine to Russia.

So Europe is preparing to create Eurasian Empire with countries like China, India, Pakistan and Iran as rulers and hegemony together with Muslim World and Russia as commodities supplier. It is reality here and Russia will be in role of commodities supplier. Not Dreams to create Briben or Trump world here. U.S is done already, world hegemon is China. Already.

 

[SandisLL]

House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries pledged in a letter to lawmakers to do “everything in our legislative power to confront aggression” around the globe, and he cast the situation as similar to the lead-up to World War II.

“The gravely serious events of this past weekend in the Middle East and Eastern Europe underscore the need for Congress to act immediately,” Jeffries said. “We must take up the bipartisan and comprehensive national security bill passed by the Senate forthwith.”

Democrats have also circulated a last-ditch option, known as a discharge petition, that could force a floor vote on the aid without the speaker’s approval. The petition has gained 195 lawmakers’ signatures, leaving it about a dozen votes shy of the majority it

A lot of EU countries now are considering U.S as country living in fear from their comrades in Kremlin and therefore not trustable weapons sellers. . For a reason.
When EU had considered that Russia is not trustable supplier of commodities, they had invested 143 b in renewables additionally to planned stuff.
U.S isn't trustable weapons supplier even for full immediate payment. They are delaying supplies and are in huge fear from matushka while are acting like Israel No2 and even worse. Fear from business partners in matushka Russia.