Rick Hotton demonstrates the spinning hook kick

His motion is very fluid and not many people are capable of such control to stop a spinning kick right in front of the opponent's face.
 
Hotora86 said:
His motion is very fluid and not many people are capable of such control to stop a spinning kick right in front of the opponent's face.
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yeah I know right? he's a master. That channel has tons of really practical and novel shotokan techinques by him. None of that half asses karate grappling you see in alot of demos. He really goes into the complex fundamentals with great nuance.
 
Jimmy Jazz said:
yeah I know right? he's a master. That channel has tons of really practical and novel shotokan techinques by him. None of that half asses karate grappling you see in alot of demos. He really goes into the complex fundamentals with great nuance.
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For non-half-assed Karate grappling (the self-defense aspect of original Okinawan karate) you can check out Iain Abernethy. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/user/practicalkatabunkai
 
Hotora86 said:
For non-half-assed Karate grappling (the self-defense aspect of original Okinawan karate) you can check out Iain Abernethy. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/user/practicalkatabunkai
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I've seen his stuff before. I did shotokan and tsd so most of what I learned was striking. I tried to find what style of okinawan karate he studied but I couldnt find anything. Do you know anything about that? I am curious why you like his stuff aswell.
 
Jimmy Jazz said:
I've seen his stuff before. I did shotokan and tsd so most of what I learned was striking. I tried to find what style of okinawan karate he studied but I couldnt find anything. Do you know anything about that? I am curious why you like his stuff aswell.
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https://www.iainabernethy.co.uk/
Iain Abernethy has been involved in the martial arts since childhood. Iain holds the rank of 6th Dan with the British Combat Association (one of the world's leading groups for close-quarter combat, self-protection and practical martial arts), the English Karate Federation, and the British Karate Association.

https://www.britishcombat.co.uk/about is the child of Peter Consterdine and Geoff Thompson, who both seem legit.
http://www.englishkaratefederation.com/ is WKF affiliated.
https://www.thebka.co.uk/about/ is multi-style.

https://www.usadojo.com/iain-abernethy/
Iain Abernethy has been involved in the martial arts since childhood. He began his training in karate under Doug James 7th Dan; who was in turn a student of Toru Takamizawa. Iain Abernethy gained his first black belt at the age of seventeen. Iain Abernethy has also trained extensively with British Combat Association chief instructors Peter Consterdine 8th Dan and Geoff Thompson 6th dan. Iain Abernethy was awarded the rank of 5th Dan by Peter and Geoff in 2004.

http://www.chojinkai.com/ Chojinkai Karate (pronounced Cho-jin-Kai) is the name of the Wado-Ryu based style of Karate founded in 1974 by President & Chief Instructor Doug James 8th Dan.

https://steve-rowe.com/2015/10/21/toru-takamizawa-1942-1998/
Toru Takamizawa was a Wado stylist.



TL/DR: Abernethy is someone who went from Wado-ruy to multi-style.

As for why I like his stuff - in short: I genuinely think most of his ideas make sense and are applicable.
 
Hotora86 said:
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https://www.iainabernethy.co.uk/
Iain Abernethy has been involved in the martial arts since childhood. Iain holds the rank of 6th Dan with the British Combat Association (one of the world's leading groups for close-quarter combat, self-protection and practical martial arts), the English Karate Federation, and the British Karate Association.

All 3 seem to be multi-style though Shotokan-leaning (like the WKF).

https://www.britishcombat.co.uk/about is the child of Peter Consterdine and Geoff Thompson, who both seem legit.
http://www.englishkaratefederation.com/ is WKF affiliated.
https://www.thebka.co.uk/about/ is multi-style.

https://www.usadojo.com/iain-abernethy/
Iain Abernethy has been involved in the martial arts since childhood. He began his training in karate under Doug James 7th Dan; who was in turn a student of Toru Takamizawa. Iain Abernethy gained his first black belt at the age of seventeen. Iain Abernethy has also trained extensively with British Combat Association chief instructors Peter Consterdine 8th Dan and Geoff Thompson 6th dan. Iain Abernethy was awarded the rank of 5th Dan by Peter and Geoff in 2004.

http://www.chojinkai.com/ Chojinkai Karate (pronounced Cho-jin-Kai) is the name of the Wado-Ryu based style of Karate founded in 1974 by our President & Chief Instructor Doug James 8th Dan.

https://steve-rowe.com/2015/10/21/toru-takamizawa-1942-1998/
Toru Takamizawa was a Wado stylist.



TL/DR: Abernethy is someone who went from Wado-ruy to multi-style.

As for why I like his stuff - in short: I genuinely think most of his ideas make sense and are applicable.
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for like self defense? I don't see his stuff being used in sports.
 
Jimmy Jazz said:
for like self defense? I don't see his stuff being used in sports.
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Yes, exactly, for self defense only, I would add. For example the strike and back away that he does in most drills. You don't want to back away in MMA (Machida did that a lot BTW in the Tito fight for example) but in self defense you certainly do.

Strikes to the groin, eyes, back of the head... I know that ppl will jump in and say you can't train that stuff full contact but if you do a shuto uke and angle out to the right it leaves the back of the head open for a strike - and it is a prime target for self-defense.

Gedan barai as primarily a close distance groin strike makes way more sense than a long range kick block as well, now doesn't it? ;)
 
Nice kick. Great balance and fluid motion.
 
- Love this dude channel. Taekwon-woo is another great channel too.

And Rick Hotton got great hair.
Would love to know his hair secrets!
 
I believe that Iain's approach to grappling in Karate is that the katas contain movements that, when applied to two person practice, become throws. And that's not an uncommon thing - if you look at the applications of tai chi forms, they tend to involve movements that don't make much sense when done solo but once you start doing it in partner practice, you get effective takedowns and throws.

I'm personally of the opinion that if you want to learn grappling, you should do a dedicated grappling style at least as a supplement, but it's interesting to look at what Iain's doing.
 
ShadowoftheSun said:
I believe that Iain's approach to grappling in Karate is that the katas contain movements that, when applied to two person practice, become throws. And that's not an uncommon thing - if you look at the applications of tai chi forms, they tend to involve movements that don't make much sense when done solo but once you start doing it in partner practice, you get effective takedowns and throws.

I'm personally of the opinion that if you want to learn grappling, you should do a dedicated grappling style at least as a supplement, but it's interesting to look at what Iain's doing.
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Funakoshi included 9 basic throws in his teaching of karate and so those throw setups and general mechanics are found in the katas. Karate unfortunately minimized teaching those things in Japan because Judo was already extremely popular and it was the grappling art of Japan, whereas karate was not Japanese in origin. So Japanese karate put more emphasis on the striking elements to avoid competition with the native art of jujitsu.

In the modern era, the general public is coming back to the roots of the karate to some extent and that means that the throws are regaining some attention that they deserve.

Abernathy and others are doing a good job at that.
 
LeonardoBjj said:
- Love this dude channel. Taekwon-woo is another great channel too.

And Rick Hotton got great hair.
Would love to know his hair secrets!
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Yeah I agree. I think he spinning hook kicked male pattern baldness.
 
I read the title as Ricky Hatton and thought WTF
 
I've been a fan of Rick's for a long time.

Love the way he approaches teaching and the way he teaches his karate. Very technical and smooth. I like the control he has with everything he does and the way he breaks down even the little things.

Any student would be extremely lucky to learn from him. Hell I'd love to have an instructor like him living here in London. They are a dime in a dozen.

You can tell he lives and breathes what he teaches as well. I think Hotora86 was the one who introduced him to me within my first year of joining the forum.
 
Jimmy Jazz said:
could you see what he does working in a full contact setting?
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In a self-defense setting, yes. In a full contact sport setting, parts of it. The throws are similar to fairly basic takedowns that you see in BJJ, Judo and wrestling. I can't say how they're drilled in most dojos though. And without the right level of drilling, translating it to a full contact setting where the other guy is looking for it and trained to defend it is a tall order.

I think the rest of his applications are solid and make sense, he does good partner drills. I don't agree with all of it but I think that's natural. I've never seen any karateka whose bunkai I completely agree with, not even the Japanese guys.

I do like Andre Bertel's videos but he doesn't show as much as others.
 
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