Social Queer Planet: NBC film that looks at LGBTQ animals

king hippo said:
"animals eat each other's piss n' shit, and violently gnaw on each other's nutsacks when hungry, why can't we?"

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@shockaholic12 hey look a documentary right up your alley. You argued so passionately in the past about this I thought I'd find you in this thread making an ass of yourself once more.

Tell us all about those highly intelligent creatures that spend their lives in gay relationships.
 
LeonardoBjj said:
- Gators, crocodiles. That's is why conservatives dont believe climate change. They want trans animals. On the other hand, leftists are transphobics, and want to combate natural sex-change!

Rising temperatures could force the birth of more female crocodiles and fewer males, an expert said today. The scenario could cause some croc populations to disappear. Crocodile gender is determined by temperature during incubation. Nest temperatures of 89.6 to 91.4 degrees Fahrenheit (32-33 Celsius) result in males.

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https://www.livescience.com/1154-global-warming-doom-male-crocodiles.html#:~:text=Rising temperatures could force the,33 Celsius) result in males.

Warming climate could cause a sex imbalance in crocodiles making it more difficult to find mates, according to a south African scientist.

Dr. Alison Leslie, a prefessor at South Africa’s University of Stellenbosch, said that crocodile gender is determined by embryo temperature during incubation and that higher temperatures could skew the sex ratio of populations.

“A difference of 0.5 – 1ºC in incubation temperature results in markedly different sex ratios,” said Leslie, principal investigator of the ‘Crocodiles of the Okavango Delta’ project organized by the Earthwatch Institute, a global volunteer organization that supports scientific field research by offering members of the public opportunities to work alongside leading field scientists and researchers. “Research shows that nest temperatures of about 32-33 degrees Celsius result in males, while temperatures higher and lower result in females. Temperatures within a nest can vary from the top to the bottom of the nest, and can result in mixed-gender hatchlings. ”

“More female hatchlings due to the cooler or hotter incubation temperatures could lead to eventual extirpation of the species from an area,” added Leslie. “Even though crocodilians have been around for millions of years, and as important as these creatures may be in the systems they occupy, they are a much understudied species,”

https://news.mongabay.com/2006/11/climate-change-could-cause-sex-switch-in-crocs/

Global warming may cause sex changes in lizards​

By Rachel Feltman

According to new research, climate change may leave some lizards in a gender lurch. The Australian bearded dragon's sex is determined by both its chromosomes and the environment its egg is incubated in, so warmer temperatures could be skewing wild populations to have more females.

In a study published Wednesday in Nature, researchers report that they've seen evidence of this in wild populations of Pogona vitticeps.

"This is the first time we have proved that sex reversal happens in the wild in any reptile at all," lead study author Clare Holleley of the University of Canberra told the Associated Press. The study, she said, is an example of how climate extremes can put animals at risk on the most basic biological level.

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It's normal for some of these lizards to hatch as females when they have the chromosomal makeup of males. That's because the species doesn't rely solely on chromosomes to determine their sex. The lizards are also influenced by the temperature at which their eggs are incubated. Some species use just chromosomes or just egg temperature to determine their sex (and no one is really sure why), but the bearded dragon uses a combination of both.

With temperatures warming, however, this mechanism may end up putting the lizards at a disadvantage.
In the new study, Holleley and her colleagues combined controlled breeding experiments with field data collected from observations of 131 adult lizards.

In warmer areas, 11 of the wild lizards were found to be females with male chromosomes -- indicating that temperature had determined their fate.

Eleven isn't a lot, and the researchers plan on continuing their research with larger sample sizes. But here's the potential problem: When those females reproduced -- which they did at nearly twice the rate of chromosomal females -- their offspring all lacked sex chromosomes, meaning that their sex was determined entirely by temperature.
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So in a warming climate, it's possible that the species could see a snowball effect of females primed to produce female offspring, spurring a growing sex imbalance. Sure enough, the researchers saw the percentage of heat-determined females going up each year of their study. Eventually, there could be so few males that the species would lack the genetic diversity needed to stay strong in the face of their warming world.

It wouldn't be impossible for the male sex chromosome to disappear entirely, according to the researchers.
@Zookeeper Gabe
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...bal-warming-may-cause-sex-changes-in-lizards/
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Beat me to it :)
 
EL CORINTHIAN said:
@shockaholic12 hey look a documentary right up your alley. You argued so passionately in the past about this I thought I'd find you in this thread making an ass of yourself once more.

Tell us all about those highly intelligent creatures that spend their lives in gay relationships.
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Somebody has missed me lol. Didn't realize I had a fan club.

"However, there are other taxa where a subset of the population exhibits same-sex preferences even when viable opposite-sex partners are available (e.g. Japanese macaques (Macaca fuscata), Vasey and Duckworth, 2006). In rarer cases, all adult members of one sex exhibit habitual same-sex sexual interactions that can occur at similar frequencies as opposite-sex sexual interactions (e.g. male bottlenose dolphins (Tursiops sp.): Mann, 2006; female bonobos (Pan paniscus): Hohmann and Fruth, 2000; Idani, 1991; Ryu et al., 2015)."
 
shockaholic12 said:
Somebody has missed me lol. Didn't realize I had a fan club.

"However, there are other taxa where a subset of the population exhibits same-sex preferences even when viable opposite-sex partners are available (e.g. Japanese macaques (Macaca fuscata), Vasey and Duckworth, 2006). In rarer cases, all adult members of one sex exhibit habitual same-sex sexual interactions that can occur at similar frequencies as opposite-sex sexual interactions (e.g. male bottlenose dolphins (Tursiops sp.): Mann, 2006; female bonobos (Pan paniscus): Hohmann and Fruth, 2000; Idani, 1991; Ryu et al., 2015)."
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You were the first person I thought of when I saw this thread too. Always talking about gay animals lol
 
RoastBeast said:
You were the first person I thought of when I saw this thread too. Always talking about gay animals lol
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What typically happens is some red state educated conservative makes a post assuming gay behavior is a perversion of the will of nature and anti-species survival or anti-evolution or some other vague assertion and then I post actual science on gay behavior in nature that doesn’t support that at all.

Then you guys get kind of stumped and just throw your hands up and ask why I’m talking about nature, ignoring the posts I was replying to that brought the topic into the thread.
 
They should talk about asexual behavior or celibacy in animals. There is discussion about letting panda bears go extinct because they won't breed.
 
shockaholic12 said:
Then you guys get kind of stumped and just throw your hands up and ask why I’m talking about nature, ignoring the posts I was replying to that brought the topic into the thread.
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Home girl, you were asking for studies quantifying the rates at which animals ate their shit. You are the embodiment of the sniveling leftist asking for a "source".

If anyone is throwing their hands up it's probably for some stupid shit like that.
 
EL CORINTHIAN said:
Home girl, you were asking for studies quantifying the rates at which animals ate their shit. You are the embodiment of the sniveling leftist asking for a "source".

If anyone is throwing their hands up it's probably for some stupid shit like that.
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Case in point. Immediately abandoning the argument gay behavior is somehow against nature’s or evolution’s will because you’re stumped by the evidence and resorting to deflecting about animals eating shit which has nothing to do with anything and you haven’t even shown is common in nature.

Tell us all about the intelligent animals that eat their own shit you just brought up.
 
shockaholic12 said:
Case in point. Immediately abandoning the argument gay behavior is somehow against nature’s or evolution’s will because you’re stumped by the evidence and resorting to deflecting about animals eating shit which has nothing to do with anything and you haven’t even shown is common in nature.

Tell us all about the intelligent animals that eat their own shit you just brought up.
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EL CORINTHIAN said:
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That’s not eating shit. But anyways you can also google images of people drinking their own piss. And it still has nothing to do with gay behavior occurring in nature.

your image search is the most desperate I’ve seen a person become to deflect. You’re a strange ranger lol.
 
shockaholic12 said:
That’s not eating shit. But anyways you can also google images of people drinking their own piss. And it still has nothing to do with gay behavior occurring in nature.

your image search is the most desperate I’ve seen a person become to deflect. You’re a strange ranger lol.
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You're being willfully obtuse and conflating it with intelligence, which is the worst type of stupid.

This is what I was making fun of you for last time.

"Where are these studies with all these intelligent animals eating their shit!"

*Posts gif of a chimp drinking it's own piss*

"That's not an animal eating shit! Nice deflection!" The studies don't exist dipshit.

This is why you're considered a jobber around here.

Here, it's not neatly wrapped in a study In a peer reviewed journal but I'm sure you're big brain will be able to handle it:
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