Proof that Round 3 was NOT a 10-8 (SLOW MOTION CLIPS)

Man get that pitter patter bullshit out of here.
 
Master Wong said:
As I detailed in the post, he only outstruck him by two significant strikes.
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You also clearly showed bias in what you consider a significant strike. I'm not sure if I'd score it 10-8 round; I have yet to rewatch it, but your bias is obvious. Also, Nate is the aggressor in all but 1 of those gifs.
 
Good job! The in-their-parent's-basement dwellers, who are busy with their first year of high school, are attacking your use of time instead of commenting on the display of facts. That's when you know you are right.
 
10-8 is a really reaching here. nate won the round convincingly as a 10-9
 
jungliquid said:
Nice job dude, well thought out! On to the question: Do you work? Have any responsibilities? Or do you have endless free time to make arguments against people with opposing views in web forums?
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1. Yes
2. Yes, a pregnant wife
3. It took 30 minutes to extract those clips and upload them, another 10 to make this post. Less than an episode of Game of Thrones.

Don't let me bother you, go back to binge watching series on Netflix while pretending that you're being efficient with your time.
 
cade187 said:
You also clearly showed bias in what you consider a significant strike. I'm not sure if I'd score it 10-8 round; I have yet to rewatch it, but your bias is obvious. Also, Nate is the aggressor in all but 1 of those gifs.
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You must be an imbecile. If fights were judged like you WISH, a counter puncher would never win.
 
Master Wong said:
The current rules and regulations stipulate that
  1. a round is to be scored as a 10-8 round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.
Those who promote the idea that this was a 10-8 round for Nate are falling victim to two traps, first the trap of final minute bias and round amnesia, in which they remember only the end of the round and forget about all the effective striking/grappling before that. And secondly, to the trap of Joe Rogan hype, where they live the fight vicariously through Joe's voice and assume that whenever he is going off the most, is when the most pivotal action is happening. In the interest of science, I have removed the audio from the fight and slowed the video down, so we can see and tally the total amount of effective strikes in round 3. We are going to keep a tally of significant strikes, as well as insignificant strikes. Significant strikes are strikes that either land flush, or if they land glancing, land with enough power to still hurt the opponent. Insignificant strikes are either weak strikes that land clean but constitute only an annoyance, or glancing strikes that don't connect well enough to hurt the opponent. Strikes will be therefore noted as either (sig) or (insig)

Conor open's up with a clean leg kick (sig)



Nate connects with a glancing left (insig)



Nate lands a left at the end of his reach that Conor rolls with (insig)



Conor lands an elbow (sig), Nate responds with a glancing right (insig), Conor replies with a clean overhand left (sig), and a clean right (sig)



Conor lands another flush leg kick (sig)



Conor lands a clean left counter (sig)



Nate lands a stockton slap (insig) and Conor responds with a left but Nate rolls with it well (insig)



Nate lands three weak punches in the clinch (insig x 3) and Conor responds with a weak knee to the body (insig)



Nate lands two more weak punches in the clinch (insig x 2) and Conor responds with a hard elbow (sig)



Conor lands two clean leg kicks (sig x 2)



Conor lands a glancing left counter (insig) and then misses with the right.



Conor lands a leg kick (sig), Nate responds with a stockton slap (insig) and then follows that up with a knee (sig), as Conor comes back with a counter left (sig)



Nate lands a left hook (sig) then follows up with a weak jab that Conor rolls with (insig)



Nate lands four weak punches in the clinch (insig x 4)



Nate's first flurry, lands five clean punches (sig x 5) and three weak punches (insig x 3)



There is an overlap in the following clip with the previous clip, two of those punches have already been counted, but Nate follows up with one clean shot (sig) and two glancing shots (insig x 2)



Nate's punch to the body is blocked but he follows up with a clean shot up top (sig) while Conor barely ducks out of the way of other incoming shots.



Nate lands a shot to the body (sig), a hard knee to the body (sig), then follows up with a punch to the face (sig), then another glancing punch to the face (insig)



Nate lands three glancing shots that Conor rolls with (insig x 3) and one clean right hook as the round ends. (sig)



This leaves us with a final tally of

Conor: Significant strikes: 11, Insignificant strikes: 3
Nate: Significant strikes 13, Insignificant strikes: 24

So as we can see, Nate clearly won the round, but due to the fact that he only landed two more significant strike than Conor and the fact that the bulk of his shots were either glancing, weak pitter patter punches in the clinch, or at the end of his reach as Conor rolled away from the shot, there isn't enough of a scoring disparity here to score it as a 10-8 round.

The fightmetric statistics are clearly inferior to the slow motion footage approach, their method classes both a glancing, weak jab, as well as a flush haymaker bomb that knocks the opponent down, as "significant strikes", thus giving them both a statistical parity which they obviously don't deserve.They do this because they produce their statistics in real time and don't have time to go over the footage and watch it in slow motion to differentiate between actual significant strikes and weak/glancing blows.

If you are going to score round 3 a 10-8, then round one AND round two must both be 10-8s for Conor, based on the huge disparity in significant strikes in those rounds. Conor outstruck Nate in the first and second more than Nate outstruck Conor in the third.

In short, it is undeniable that round 3 was a 10-9 round for Diaz.
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Very high quality post.

<mma4>
 
jungliquid said:
Nice job dude, well thought out! On to the question: Do you work? Have any responsibilities? Or do you have endless free time to make arguments against people with opposing views in web forums?
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This is why we can't have nice things on sherdog....
 
Master Wong said:
1. Yes
2. Yes, a pregnant wife
3. It took 30 minutes to extract those clips and upload them, another 10 to make this post. Less than an episode of Game of Thrones.

Don't let me bother you, go back to binge watching series on Netflix while pretending that you're being efficient with your time.
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Even though I commented on your bias in the OP, I have to admit, this response was fucking on point. I approve. lol
 
I'm interested to hear where the op's supposed bias shows?

Only 10-8 in this fight was round one.
 
VictorCosta said:
Just proved 10-8 to nate - LoL
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10-8 is total round domination, positional domination like MOUNT or back control, or massive concussive damage(knockdowns/wobbling your opponent) - none happened in that round.
 
You can always depend on Sherdog to Sherdog. Never change.
 
jungliquid said:
Nice job dude, well thought out! On to the question: Do you work? Have any responsibilities? Or do you have endless free time to make arguments against people with opposing views in web forums?
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Nice straw man argument. Why do you care so much about belittling people on the Internet?
 
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