This is all you need if you can do it well:
I love the inside trip, it is one of my techniques with the highest success rate. It is my go-to move from most clinches. slide (I presume you mean throw-bys) bys are great too, very good. Look into Sadulaev-type armdrags too. He gets it on everybody; Snyder, ex-world champions, european champions... everybody.so you dont like the above technique? iv seen romero hit it few times and few others i think adam saitiev hit inside trip on romero too at sydney i was like damn when he hit it
everybody gets into over under in mma and yet every gym i know only does like 1 or 2 moves from there most guys dont know how to defend against it they just try to throw hips back as far as they can to get away its a great position i wana get some good body locks slide bys from there
i wish wrestling had a list of structure like how bjj and boxing have positions and set moves from each position to find online
i love moves like this it seems hard to find moves like this from over under id love to add this to my clinch game but looks like will take alottt of practice
Most of the "judo" type throws like the hip throws are probably easier if you are close enough to do the no-gi style wrap-arounds, and holds. You are, of course, closer to your opponent. You have more control over opponent, and can use your core more than if you are gripping jacket with your hands.
Judo works really well in the MMA clinch, though it's not the Judo that most Judo guys are good at (you don't want to spam seio nages and wait for ref standups in the cage). Sasae, harai goshi, ouchi gari, kosoto gake, osoto gari, those all work great. The clinch in MMA tends to be fairly upright which lends itself very well to Judo.
I love the inside trip, it is one of my techniques with the highest success rate. It is my go-to move from most clinches. slide (I presume you mean throw-bys) bys are great too, very good. Look into Sadulaev-type armdrags too. He gets it on everybody; Snyder, ex-world champions, european champions... everybody.
hitting those type throws against good guys is alot like guys who do karate or tkd in mma it takes years and years to get good at tbh i only see judo guys get takedowns who were top top level in judo not a guy who just trained it for mma tbh i wish it did work easier cause id use them more 90% of guys when you get over under throw there hips straight back i usually like to then snap them into a front head lock and use it tot ake them to the mat if the choke isnt there
i always see guys try to show judo throws for mma on youtube and the vid starts with the guy getting 1 under hook and wrist control nobodys gonna sit there and let you have an underhook with wrist control in the middle of the cagethat only works against the fence the only legit clinch in mma you can get and keep nowadays is over under and i s gripmy hands
hitting those type throws against good guys is alot like guys who do karate or tkd in mma it takes years and years to get good
when it comes to mma though the top 4 are bjj wrestling boxing and kick boxing due to being able to be pretty decent at each within a year or so given you train properlyThis is universal. It takes tons of practice and repetition to land any move over and over again. Especially so on a competent opponent.
This is just as true of a single leg takedown as it is of harai goshi.
I don't believe judo takedowns are any more difficult than wrestling or sambo takedowns. If you want to be good at something you have to train it over the long term. It's just that you've had less practice at them, that's all.
The solution is more practice.