Obamacare Legislative Process vs Trumpcare Legislative Process

ehtheist said:
I cannot stress this enough, but ABSOLUTELY YES. We have a political environment which is so ridden with outright garbage bills loaded with ideological trash that make no attempt to actually pursue the good of the country, countless poison pill bills, and countless bills which are done, it seems, with the largest intent being to spite the other side and/or ignore their interests - and these bills get passed. So yes, when another one of any number of utter garbage bills hits the floor and it doesn't get passed because the side that could easily pass it steps back and says "hey guys, I know this is our bill, and I know 'fuck Obama,' but this bill sucks... Let's not vote for it." THAT is worthy of applause.

You people spent most of the last presidency complaining that Obama was being blocked at every turn and now that he's gone the greatest legacy of his presidency was on the block - and the other side, rather than axing it just because "fuck Obama!" looked at their own bill, found it wanting, and voted it down - and now all you can do and laugh at how incompetent they are rather than applaud them for not voting along party lines. The ACA isn't gone because they proved to be less partisan than you people are proving to be - simple as that... And all you can do is laugh at people who took a step beyond what you seem capable of doing - for the good of America, rather than their party.

You people are truly showing yourselves to be part and parcel to the partisan tumor that's rotting our political process every way you look at it. If you take this opportunity to do nothing but mock the other side along the lines you are, and don't applaud an act of non-partisan voting that we *desperately* need, then you are an utter hypocrite if you complain about partisanship in politics in months to come. You're making this bed, partisan hacks. Own it.
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It's not worthy of applause. When you have 7 years to do something right, you don't get credit for turning in something bad. If this was something that the GOP just came up with then maybe you could give the party some credit for not passing something poorly crafted.

But they've been preparing for this moment for 7 years. The problem is not that they didn't pass a bad bill. The problem is that it took them 7 years and the best they could do was a bad bill.

To make a school parallell: Let's say a teacher gives a student 7 weeks to prepare a book report. On the due date, the student walks in and tells the teacher "I don't want to turn in this paper, it's not very good." That student doesn't get an A for admitting his book report isn't any good. He needs to provide an explanation for why, after 7 weeks, he can't write a good book report.
 
how many pages was the ryan bill and who read it?

why was Rand Paul's bill not being talked about?

TomCotton supposably has a bill as well why wasn't that one given any air time?
 
7437 said:
The bill didnt get shot down because it was garbage. The freedom caucus regused because it wasnt garbage enough.

And its a gop bill. If the introduced something that wasnt a dumpster fire that would be worth celebrating. You dont get points for not serving a turkey you burnt. You get points for not burning it
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That's what I found scary about the reaction Republicans showed towards it. Ryan showed a bill with everything their agenda demands: tax cuts for the rich, reduced subsidies, not making a commitment to insure everyone... and they still shot it down. Even the shit that was proposed looks too socialist for them.

It's really hard to see them moving forward in any direction since there's about 10 or so crazy motherfuckers in the HFC who 100% won't vote for ANYTHING that isn't a full repeal. Then you have moderates who already got slammed by their consituents and won't take the heat associated with a full repeal.

It looks impossible to bring hardline conservatards and moderates on board at the same time and Democrats won't really cooperate with them because any form of repeal or scaling back is unacceptable and any bill that would seem too liberal would just be a rebranding of something that already works (an ego project for Trump).
 
panamaican said:
It's not worthy of applause. When you have 7 years to do something right, you don't get credit for turning in something bad. If this was something that the GOP just came up with then maybe you could give the party some credit for not passing something poorly crafted.

But they've been preparing for this moment for 7 years. The problem is not that they didn't pass a bad bill. The problem is that it took them 7 years and the best they could do was a bad bill.

To make a school parallell: Let's say a teacher gives a student 7 weeks to prepare a book report. On the due date, the student walks in and tells the teacher "I don't want to turn in this paper, it's not very good." That student doesn't get an A for admitting his book report isn't any good. He needs to provide an explanation for why, after 7 weeks, he can't write a good book report.
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Yeah the spin going on over this is astounding.
Some next level shit.
Reminds me of that episode of Star Trek: Voyager where Paris goes so fast they cross the transwarp threshold and evolve into these weird amphibian critters.
 
Limbo Pete said:
Yeah the spin going on over this is astounding.
Some next level shit.
Reminds me of that episode of Star Trek: Voyager where Paris goes so fast they cross the transwarp threshold and evolve into these weird amphibian critters.
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That's the most trippy reference I've heard in the War Room in a long time.

You know, in a good way.
 
Limbo Pete said:
Yeah the spin going on over this is astounding.
Some next level shit.
Reminds me of that episode of Star Trek: Voyager where Paris goes so fast they cross the transwarp threshold and evolve into these weird amphibian critters.
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The idea that Paris and Janeway procreate but everything is back to normal at the end made this one of the worst episodes ever
 
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