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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un says it is a duty of women to halt a fall in the country’s birthrate
ByKIM TONG-HYUNG Associated Press and HYUNG-JIN KIM Associated Press
December 4, 2023, 5:56 AM


SEOUL, South Korea -- North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has said it is a duty of women to halt a fall in the country’s births in order to strengthen national power, state media said Monday, as his government steps up the call for the people to have more children.

While getting a detailed read on North Korea’s population trends is extremely difficult because of the limited statistics it discloses, South Korea’s government assesses that the North’s fertility rate has declined steadily for the past 10 years. That is a concerning development for a country that depends on mobilized labor to help keep its broken, heavily sanctioned economy afloat.

Kim's latest appeal for women to have more children was made Sunday during the country’s National Mothers Meeting, the first of its kind in 11 years.

“Stopping the decline in birthrates and providing good child care and education are all our family affairs that we should solve together with our mothers," Kim said in his opening speech.

According to South Korea’s government statistics agency, North Korea’s total fertility rate, or the average number of babies expected to be born to a woman over her lifetime, was at 1.79 in 2022, down from 1.88 in 2014. The decline is still slower than its wealthier rival South Korea, whose fertility rate last year was 0.78, down from 1.20 in 2014.

South Korea's fertility rate, the lowest in the developed world, is believed to be due to a potent cocktail of reasons discouraging people from having babies, including a decaying job market, a brutally competitive school environment for children, traditionally weak child care assistance and a male-centered corporate culture where many women find it impossible to combine careers and family.

While North Korea is one of the poorest nations in the world, the change in its demographic structure is similar to that of rich countries, some observers say.

“Many families in North Korea also don't intend to have more than one child these days as they know they need lots of money to raise their kids, send them to school and help them get jobs,” said Ahn Kyung-su, head of DPRKHEALTH.ORG, a website focusing on health issues in North Korea.

Ahn, who has interviewed many North Korean defectors, said the smuggling of a vast amount of South Korean TV dramas and movies in the past 20 years that showed an elevated social status for women has also likely influenced women in North Korea not to have many children.

North Korea implemented birth control programs in the 1970-80s to slow a postwar population growth. The country’s fertility rate recorded a major decline following a famine in the mid-1990s that was estimated to have killed hundreds of thousands of people, the Seoul-based Hyundai Research Institute said in a report in August.


“Given North Korea lacks resources and technological advancements, it could face difficulties to revive and develop its manufacturing industry if sufficient labor forces are not provided,” the institute report said.

According to North Korean state media reports this year, the country has introduced a set of benefits for families with three or more children, including preferential free housing arrangements, state subsidies, free food, medicine and household goods and educational perks for children.

South Korea’s statistics agency estimates the North’s population at 25.7 million. The Hyundai institute report said that North Korea was expected to experience a population shrink from 2034 and forecast its population would decrease to 23.7 million by 2070.

Ahn, the website head, said that Kim Jong Un's repeated public appearances with his young daughter, Ju Ae, are also likely be efforts to encourage families. Other experts said the daughter's appearances were more likely an attempt to show she's her father's heir.

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Putin also released a similar call the other day. We need more cannon fodder! Reproduce!


Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging women to have as many as eight children as the number of dead Russian soldiers continues to rise in his war with Ukraine, worsening the country's population crisis.

Addressing the World Russian People's Council in Moscow on Tuesday, Putin said the country must return to a time when large families were the norm.
 
Soo didn't Genghis Khan and the Mongol Empire rule Korea at one point?

Did they not learn anything?
 
I just found out that South Korea's fertility rate is only 0.78 :oops:
They will disappear in a few decades if this trend continues.
 
I can totally see Elon Musk answering the call. Dude is hell-bent on spreading his seeds far and wide.
 
Pretty sad as this is code for forced insemination. Also, spread your legs for your glorious leader is my pick up line, short round better not steal it
 
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A lot of people wish they could say the same thing on this forum.
 
People don't pop out kids just because you tell them to. It cost money, time and energy to raise children. If you don't create favorable condition for young couples, then your birth rate will plummet.

In North Korea's case, getting a full stomach is already a luxury.
 
I just found out that South Korea's fertility rate is only 0.78 :oops:
They will disappear in a few decades if this trend continues.
Don’t worry, when they open their borders up more, all the people that move there will magically become Korean, so the number of Koreans will increase
 
Maybe it's just a Korean thing. SK is pretty bad in terms of birthrate too.
 
A lot of people wish they could say the same thing on this forum.
Their wish is that they could say larger families are good on a karate forum? Dare to dream.

Is the socially acceptable opinion that families are bad and women should just get jobs in a depressing cubicle and have a bunch of cats instead and leave the child rearing to migrants?
 
Their wish is that they could say larger families are good on a karate forum? Dare to dream.

Is the socially acceptable opinion that families are bad and women should just get jobs in a depressing cubicle and have a bunch of cats instead and leave the child rearing to migrants?

If it was that good wouldn’t more people do it then?

Financial stress aside most people don’t want that many kids. The days of huge families with 6+ kids is over. It was socially acceptable for most of human history to have big families but women changed their minds after having the choice. I don’t think it’s only women too since men don’t want that many kids either.

Yelling at women to have kids is not the answer tbh.
 
If it was that good wouldn’t more people do it then?

Financial stress aside most people don’t want that many kids. The days of huge families with 6+ kids is over. It was socially acceptable for most of human history to have big families but women changed their minds after having the choice. I don’t think it’s only women too since men don’t want that many kids either.

Yelling at women to have kids is not the answer tbh.
When did they not "have the choice"?

Is the concept of detrimental social trends a new one to you? If being healthy was any good, we wouldn't have so many obese people and drug addicts, right?

If choosing taxed labor for a corporation over family wasn't a regrettable decision for so many women, there wouldn't be a $30 billion fertility industry and a brutal divide between liberal women and women with families in being medicated for depression and mental illness. Sure as hell seems like an awful lot of women regret being pressured into doing taxed labor instead of having families, and spend tens of thousands each just for unlikely chance to get a take back and still have kids.
 
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