Nate's BJJ vs Tony's BJJ

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by andrikkis7, Oct 9, 2017.

  1. andrikkis7

    andrikkis7 Rikudō Sennin

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2016
    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    283
    Who is better when it comes to BJJ?

    I've seen a lot of posters here claiming that Nate is better but in my honest opinion, Tony has the best BJJ in the division.

    What do you guys think?
     
    Vegeta, LcBR and Socialhandgrenade like this.
  2. Dream20

    Dream20 Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2014
    Messages:
    1,885
    Likes Received:
    3,171
    I would go with Nate.
     
  3. sirmorbach

    sirmorbach These violent delights have violent ends

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2016
    Messages:
    7,066
    Likes Received:
    46,386
    Location:
    Brazil
    If we're talking about pure, classic BJJ, I'd say Nate, but I think Tony's is better adapted to MMA.
     
  4. TheAmericanGazelle

    TheAmericanGazelle Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2016
    Messages:
    2,445
    Likes Received:
    5,076
    I think Tony is better in scrambles, but otherwise Nate has a more balanced and practiced game.
     
    SKITZADACTYL likes this.
  5. SCTwins

    SCTwins Black Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2011
    Messages:
    5,459
    Likes Received:
    11,677
    Probably a stalemate.
     
    pick999 and Goldentrophy like this.
  6. Rav7n

    Rav7n Black Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2008
    Messages:
    5,589
    Likes Received:
    3,953
    Location:
    Manchester
    nate vs tony adcc..im in.
     
    fzoid4454 and BuddyGuy like this.
  7. ralphus1

    ralphus1 Cheaper than a prostate exam

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2006
    Messages:
    12,547
    Likes Received:
    6,596
    Location:
    Kookamonga baby
    Nate via longer arms & legs for chokes, plus a longer list of victims.

    No disrespect to Tony.
     
  8. wake_me

    wake_me Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2005
    Messages:
    4,711
    Likes Received:
    6,672
    Location:
    Hamilton, Ontario
    Tony seems more flexible and unorthodox. Nate night be tighter with less wasted motion.

    Like the elbows Tony uses in guard. Has Nate ever used rubber guard
     
    tehShuffle likes this.
  9. JustBleed69

    JustBleed69 Touch-Butt Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2015
    Messages:
    3,823
    Likes Received:
    4,603
    I think Nate has more technical BJJ abilities, but Tony is stronger, more athletic, and has better wrestling/ MMA grappling.

    So BJJ, Nate.
    Overall Ground Skills, Tony.
     
  10. sb413197

    sb413197 Red Belt

    Joined:
    May 24, 2009
    Messages:
    9,041
    Likes Received:
    1,056
    Location:
    New York
    If they were to fight each other Nate would probably have the upper hand on the ground, but it is a bit of rock-paper-scissors because I think Tony would mess up a lot of good fighters that Nate would struggle with or get stalled out against. Tony has a really awesome MMA guard - very aggressive and fatiguing to deal with for the top player.
     
    Arm Barbarian, A.S. Deep and deviake like this.
  11. wookie brawl

    wookie brawl Brown Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2013
    Messages:
    3,246
    Likes Received:
    4,320
    Location:
    Australia
    Responses here are pretty much spot on. I like both but I prefer Tony's 10th planet stuff, Eddie bravo is a genius.
     
  12. TomTomNT

    TomTomNT Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2010
    Messages:
    2,080
    Likes Received:
    1,093
    lmao all these clueless ducks thinking Tony is even close to nate in BJJ makes me laugh my ass of rofl.

    This isnt even a close match up, Nate would murder him 10/10 times in bjj, Nate is a legit black belt for years now, has perfectly smooth transitions and is absolutely feared on the ground. Tony shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence.
     
    FuriousG and GODZILLA213 like this.
  13. UFC=Pride

    UFC=Pride Black Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2007
    Messages:
    6,208
    Likes Received:
    8,637
    Location:
    The North
    I'd go with Nate here but not by a huge margin
     
  14. ArtemV

    ArtemV Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2014
    Messages:
    15,799
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    Location:
    Moscow/SPb
    Diaz. Ferguson is good, but he can get held down and controlled by good wrestlers (Lee passed his guard and mounted him pretty easily and Castillo held and took him down each round, I believe Khabib would have done the same). He is unorthodox and that is sometimes a problem; he tries risky moves and gets stuck on the bottom. His rolling leg locks are nearly useless (esp. vs Barboza), he was nowhere near putting Barboza's legs in danger.

    Diaz never takes big risks, but has good passing, control - he has a more well rounded grappling game.

    Both aren't great vs good wrestlers.
     
    Bigsquid and freelanzr like this.
  15. SKITZADACTYL

    SKITZADACTYL Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2013
    Messages:
    16,914
    Likes Received:
    20,077
    nate has better pure BJJ, tony tries harder in scrambles and is willing to take more risks whereas nate is more lazy on the ground.
     
  16. BRASIL WAND

    BRASIL WAND Silver Belt

    Joined:
    May 22, 2007
    Messages:
    14,255
    Likes Received:
    24,113
    Location:
    Inside ATT's one and only Main Academy
    BJJ - Nate

    Wrestling - Fergie




    However Fergies BJJ >>>>>>> Nayts Wrestling



    <seedat>
     
    MRT and A.S. Deep like this.
  17. xyzxyz94

    xyzxyz94 Green Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2017
    Messages:
    1,450
    Likes Received:
    2,134
    Fuck they should set that shit up at Metamoris. No gi I'd take Fergie.
     
  18. Sean Long

    Sean Long Master black belt of Majitney fufu

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2016
    Messages:
    2,064
    Likes Received:
    1,400
    Location:
    Bruce Lee's house
    Nates chin >>>> Nates Boxing >>>>> Fergie KTFO
     
  19. Sean Long

    Sean Long Master black belt of Majitney fufu

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2016
    Messages:
    2,064
    Likes Received:
    1,400
    Location:
    Bruce Lee's house
    I would rather get a BBBJ from Gina Carano
     
    pigsnake likes this.
  20. Roop Holstry

    Roop Holstry Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2012
    Messages:
    8,232
    Likes Received:
    13,834
    Location:
    The Jersey Shore Pines
    If they both started to grapple in a fight I would have Nate winning the exchanges. Tony can be a bit wild in there and Nate might be able to catch him in a sub by just being a more seasoned and technical black belt.

    Would love to see the two fight at some point. They match up very well both standing and on the ground. It Would be a war
     

Share This Page