Name one fighter that Stipe has fought that is an elite wrestler like DC?

[Melas Chasma]

Your joking right? Jones F'ed up everyone with his 'pillow fists and chicken legs' and no Tbol doesnt give you magical 'inflict damage' power. Skinny legs have absolutely nothing to do with generating power and thats what he does. If I take a fat baseball bat Vs. a skinny one and speedswing the shit outta the skinny one at your head, you think your gonna say "well, at least it wasnt the fat bat". Plenty of powerhouse kickers have skinny legs and plenty of bodybuilder types with huge legs have zero power cause that much mass is like driving with your brakes engaged.

Let me put it this way so that you also can understand: Jones does not have a lot of power in his strikes, relatively speaking. The last time he knocked down someone in a fight with his noodle punches or kicks before DC was Machida back in 2011. He is not a KO artists. DC got rocked by that kick, and then put completely out by Jones' GnP like 15-20 seconds later. DC's recovery in that situation did not look impressive. He did not look like a fighter with P4P top5 chin (at least anymore) like that poster claimed.

Anymore questions?

 

[g*r*b]

Yea I do honestly. The guy is a beast man all around. Wrestling or striking I think he will be fine no matter where it goes. He was doing very well against Jon Jones until he got caught with a head kick. Cmon now if Struve could knock out Stipe I certainly believe that DC could.

Ah, the Struve card gets played! I look forward to the day when we can all accept that sometimes a prospect loss is just a prospect loss...

 

[Axefan4life]

All those guys got clinched the fuck up and outworked. You don't just need to worry about getting taken down from DC, you need to worry about his clinch and getting grinded out.

Barnett, Mir and Nelson sure as fuck dont equal prime Stipe.

 

[Furious77]

Barnett, Mir and Nelson sure as fuck dont equal prime Stipe.

I never said they did, but Stipe has never faced an elite wrestler. DC is going to be the most skilled high iq fighter that Stipe will have ever fought. It's a great matchup.

 

[Sean Long]

It's impossible. I think the wrestling is gonna play a huge part in the fight.

Stipe is an NCAA Div 1 wrassler, but there's a big difference between Div 1, and Olympic level wrasslin.

DC by Decision.

Stipe beat Thunderlips right after Rocky did

 

[MMAProfessional]

There is a big difference between Olympic wrestling and MMA wrestling. DC learned that the hard way against Jones. The fact that Stipe is NCAA Div 1 and DC is Olympic has no bearing on an MMA fight, well, very little bearing, because MMA wrestling is not the same and it doesn't always translate.

DC's MMA wrestling is phenomenal. DC's MMA wrestling is still top notch and the best by far that Stipe has faced.

 

[Sean Long]

Barnett, Mir and Nelson sure as fuck dont equal prime Stipe.

But Stipe does = Stipe

 

[froggyluv]

Let me put it this so that you also can understand: Jones does not have a lot of power in his strikes, relatively speaking. The last time he knocked down someone in a fight with his noodle punches or kicks before DC was Machida back in 2011. He is not a KO artists. DC got rocked by that kick, and then put completely out by Jones' GnP like 15-20 seconds later. DC's recovery in that situation did not look impressive. He did not look like a fighter with P4P top5 chin (at least anymore) like that poster claimed.

Anymore questions?

DC leaned directly into that kick with chin untucked and zero hands to buffer so Id say his chin took that like a champ. You used Jones's skinny legs and pillow fists to undermine his ability to do damage -but then how does he always win? He's not a points fighter -he's a crafty fighter that uses whatever works against that particular opponent ie short elbows for infighting Rashad. But he does damage and thats the bottom line.

 

[FrontNakedChoke]

DC by Decision.

 

[MusterX]

DC's MMA wrestling is phenomenal. DC's MMA wrestling is still top notch and the best by far that Stipe has faced.

Its a good point and one that I can't refute. My only counter is that I haven't seen Stipe spend much time on his back.

 

[Axefan4life]

But Stipe does = Stipe

That checks out.

 

[Axefan4life]

I never said they did, but Stipe has never faced an elite wrestler. DC is going to be the most skilled high iq fighter that Stipe will have ever fought. It's a great matchup.

True enough bro, but D.C. will also be the smallest heavy outside of Hunt that Stipes ever fought. Dont underestimate the size and power advantage Stipe will have.

 

[Badr Hari]

Cormier's wrestling success is in the past. He would suck against olympic wrestlers today, just like Stipe would.

 

[kevinramsdell]

You're acting like DC has never fought big, Strong HWs before lol. Read what you said... you're saying stipe is leaps and bounds better than bones. You're reaching far my guy. And DC easily won the 2nd round against Jones and was winning the 3rd till he got clipped. DC will handle himself just fine. Especially the way he ragdolled big LHWs like Volkan, rumble twice, and gus.

I don't know what you mean by doing very well. He was losing rounds. The biggest problem here for DC is that Stipe is 6'4", the same height as Bones. DC is going to have to deal with a guy who is tall as Bones, has more wrestling credentials than Bones, is stronger than Bones, and hits harder than Bones. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Bones hater, I think he's one of the greatest of all time, but Stipe may give DC an ass whoopin.

 

[kevinramsdell]

Ah, the Struve card gets played! I look forward to the day when we can all accept that sometimes a prospect loss is just a prospect loss...

Ehhhh still happened

 

[Klippy]

DC's going to wrestlefuck Stipe.. literally toy with him.

 

[MusterX]

You're acting like DC has never fought big, Strong HWs before lol. Read what you said... you're saying stipe is leaps and bounds better than bones. You're reaching far my guy. And DC easily won the 2nd round against Jones and was winning the 3rd till he got clipped. DC will handle himself just fine. Especially the way he ragdolled big LHWs like Volkan, rumble twice, and gus.

No I'm not saying that Stipe is leaps and bounds better than Bones. I'm saying Stipe is bigger and stronger and has great wrestling. Bones' height and wrestling acumen stymied DC's game plans and Stipe may take a page out of that book.

 

[geezus17]

There aren't many wrestlers in the world on the level as DC, so I'm going to say 0. Given that, this is an MMA fight, so it may not even make a difference

 

[kevinramsdell]

No I'm not saying that Stipe is leaps and bounds better than Bones. I'm saying Stipe is bigger and stronger and has great wrestling. Bones' height and wrestling acumen stymied DC's game plans and Stipe may take a page out of that book.

You said, "DC is going to have to deal with a guy who is tall as Bones, has more wrestling credentials than Bones, is stronger than Bones, and hits harder than Bones." Exact words, citing that Stipe is superior to Jones which certainly isnt the case, especially when I'm sure Jones is walking around at nearly the same weight if not the same as Stipe. DC has made a career of toying with larger men and throwing them around. A smaller man in height, but has always had the strength and athleticism to compete with any HW on the planet in MMA or wrestling. He will do just fine. I guarantee you DC will come in and walk Stipe down like he does every other fighter, and look to knock him out or throw him on his back and pound him out.

If the TD isn't there, then it isn't there. He has so many other tools to use that it will take a truly talented fighter to beat him. Now, I do worry about guys that get knocked out for the first time. Because once it happens, it seems their chin just never recovers the same and gradually weakens over time and at heavyweight EVERYONE throws hammers. Should be a fun fight to watch but will probably only sell 600k at most. Which is still great considering the state of the current ppv sales.

 

[MusterX]

Jones is walking around at nearly the same weight if not the same as Stipe.

That's absolutely not true. Bones doesn't cut a lot of weight and usually weighs around 218 come fight time. Conversely, Stipe is 245 minimum come fight time.

You said, "DC is going to have to deal with a guy who is tall as Bones, has more wrestling credentials than Bones, is stronger than Bones, and hits harder than Bones." Exact words, citing that Stipe is superior to Jones which certainly isnt the case

All of those things are true, Stipe is as tall as Bones, is stronger than Bones, and has more wrestling credentials than Bones, that does not, however, indicate Stipe is as skilled as Jon Jones. Almost nobody is as skilled as Jon Jones. It remains to be seen if Stipe's skill level is high enough to handle Cormier but all those things about Stipe physically compared to Bones are true.