Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt: Towards a Secular Theocracy

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  1. unimackpass

    unimackpass Brown Belt

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    Interesting book written in 2002. He saw a lot of things coming down the pike that seemingly popped out of nowhere but of course they didn't.

    Original post was made in response to the question of "where did all this cultural guilt come from?"
    Thread disappeared so reposting book info here if anyone is interested.

    "What prompted all this white guilt anyways ? Collective guilt is so intellectually fraudulent and pathetic.
    What prompted all this guilt?"-
    Very astute question. And to be sure it didn't happen in a vacum.
    Many people like to believe it's the angels of their better nature rather than a cultural construct carefully and shrewdly crafted. Those that believe it's proof of their moral sensitivity that others are lacking will defend their position with a crusaders zeal ignited with fury by those that would question their altruistic motives.

    However, even a cursory scan of some threads will tell a novice that something is wrong with this picture.

    This book was written in 2002 and things he predicted are moving along quite nicely although even he could not have come up with the plethora of multiple gender and Otherkin constructs in play.

    Note he points out that "the therapeutic regime has become very adept at
    pathologizing descent."

    "The state gains enormous power and the halo of sanctity when it manages to "credibility define itself" as speaking on behalf of victims..... at the expense of victimizers."







    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/615971.Multiculturalism_and_the_Politics_of_Guilt


    Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt: Towards a Secular Theocracy

    Gottfried’s book, Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt, published in 2002, focuses attention on the therapeutic regime that has arisen from the managerial welfare state. (He focused on the managerial state generally in an earlier book, entitled After Liberalism.) He identifies three defining characteristics of the therapeutic regime: “the attempt to present as mere psychological and educational matters what are increasingly intrusive uses of government power to alter social behavior; dividing society into victims and non-victims (or victimizers); and a politics of disposition, in which ‘sensitivity’ becomes the decisive issue for drawing friend-enemy distinctions.” As to the first characteristic, Gottfried notes that defenders of the therapeutic regime have proved very adept at pathologizing dissent. As to the second, Gottfried thinks that the State gains enormous power and the halo of sanctity when it manages to credibly define itself as speaking on behalf of “victims” in an attempt to redress historic wrongs at the expense of “victimizers.” Concerning the final characteristic, Gottfried points out that when sensitivity becomes the decisive issue for drawing friend-enemy relations, no one outside the therapeutic consensus is safe, even if they mind their own business and merely wish to be left alone. (Gottfried was very prescient regarding this point, as can be easily discerned by looking at the post-Obergefell landscape.)

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  2. FierceRedBelt

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    Essentially poisoning the well? Correct? If you can segregate the majority and then alienate and villianize the most established group you can start completely resetting society. Getting white women on board is genius though; either they're raising white men with guilt ingrained from childhood or there are no more white men.
     
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  3. unimackpass

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    More review.

    " Supporters of the therapeutic regime have all the advantages. The combination of state power and liberal Protestant cultural authority is reminiscent, says Gottfried, of the alliance of throne and altar during the ancien regime. Add to this the liberal media and educational establishments, the liberal entertainment industry, immigration flows that make winning elections easier and easier for Democrats, and a Republican “opposition” party that is an echo rather than a real alternative. The Republicans shudder at the thought of being labeled sexist, racist or homophobe by their Democratic opponents, bending over backwards to remain “respectable” by secular progressive standards. And to the extent that there still is a Republican base that opposes the therapeutic regime, the party Establishment tends to treat this base with contempt and bad faith.

    "The fly in the ointment which may eventually disrupt the therapeutic regime, thinks Gottfried, is the ongoing complete commitment to open borders, which has for various reasons been a short term winning tactic for our governing elites. Not all populations, he thinks will prove as pliable as those formed in a liberal Protestant culture. Current trends in Europe demonstrate Gottfried’s prescience regarding this point. And the fact that European political elites seem to have abandoned all common sense when it comes to the topic of mass immigration seems to underscore Gottfried’s argument regarding the non-rational, pseudo-religious aspects of secular progressivism. Perhaps the therapeutic regime really will end up destroying itself. Although Gottfried does not talk about it, another problem facing the therapeutic regime seems to be that its conquests will reach a point where it becomes almost impossible to remain both Christian and “politically correct” simultaneously. This point may be arriving now, as mainline Christians, especially in the aftermath of Obergefell , will have to decide whether or not to go along with the persecution of their more traditionalist Christian brethren in the name of a State sponsored ongoing LGBT agenda, or defend in the name of real pluralism the rights of their traditionalist co-religionists, even if it means breaking with PC orthodoxy. It is perhaps not naively optimistic to hope that the religious mainline will stand with the traditionalists as the therapeutic regime begins to force the issue. If so, perhaps the disruption of the therapeutic regime will not require something so drastic as being overrun by foreign populations."
     
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    Yuri Bezmenov (KGB defector) talked about ideological subversion back in the early 80's I think it was and a big part of the strategy he talked about is demoralization of society (a common psychological warfare tactic). Collective guilt strategies have been used throughout history and this also ties in with the use of Marxist critical theory (destructive criticism) that has been deployed into university curriculum which Bezmenov also talked about (using schools to indoctrinate successive waves of youth)

    In terms of multiculturalism it was rolled out all across the Western nations in the 70's and 80's as political direction, and it is a function of empire (as it is a supranational initiative and is coordinated) and dissolution of the cultures, peoples, and nations in order to restructure them into a more globalized model. The host is dissolved in this process of transformation and that is by design.
     
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    "Though most people in the West are sympathetic to immigrants who are seeking to improve their station in life, pointing out the potential problems in any way is evidence of “xenophobia” and “racism.”

    https://doukhobor666.wordpress.com/...olitics-of-guilt-towards-a-secular-theocracy/

    "Gottfried further argues that the other aspect of the “antifascist” multicultural Left is the crusade against perceived xenophobia. While governments pursue an agenda of unchecked militarism abroad, refugees of war torn countries seek asylum in the West. Politicians are all too happy to accommodate in the name of “diversity.” When a segment of Americans and Europeans oppose the efforts, the multicultural Left predictably denounces opponents of immigration as “racist” and “xenophobic.” Though most people in the West are sympathetic to immigrants who are seeking to improve their station in life, pointing out the potential problems in any way is evidence of “xenophobia” and “racism.” Despite the recent unprecedented tragedy of several hundred women being assaulted in Cologne on a single evening, all criticism or skepticism of immigration must be purged from discussion. The effects of low skills and education or sharp cultural differences between those raised in Islamic countries under Sharia Law are not taken into account. Subsequently, a rational debate about immigration cannot take place. The predictable result is an ever escalating set of tensions with opponents of immigration predictably branded as racist. This schism has only become more pronounced with the ascendancy of the Trump candidacy.

    The role of social science in shaping the prevailing consensus around multiculturalism cannot be gainsaid. Building from the foundations laid by the likes of John Dewey and Herbert Croly, the modern social scientists “proclaim a postreligious science and equate the promotion of the social good with acts of will.” These doctrines of groupthink and collectivism which assign higher virtue to social construction of personal identity have been championed by feminists and social engineers who seek nothing less than to recode human nature. One need only look at the state of affairs on college campuses throughout America and Europe to see the poison fruits of this ill conceived social experiment."
     
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    "the democratic managerial welfare state is where the contemporary socialist priesthood and their fellow social engineers have built their new temple. The welfare state is not just limited todispensing material goods. It must administer a therapeutic form of national unity. This new secular theocracy of multiculturalism and diversity has been integrated into social services, public education, and most prominently, in higher education. It is amplified by the high priests in Hollywood films, television and mass media with a fervor that rivals the most devout religious zealots"

    https://doukhobor666.wordpress.com/...olitics-of-guilt-towards-a-secular-theocracy/


    "Like many Americans, I grew up holding the view that America needed to evolve with respect to gender, race and gay relations in order to live up to its creed and “form a more perfect Union.” I viewed the attainment of women’s suffrage, the ’64 Civil Rights Act, Brown v. Board of Education and the gay marriage equality movement as crucial steps towards achieving the Union that the Founders surely envisioned.

    If the rhetoric of #Blacklivesmatter, LGBT activists, professional feminists and politicians is to be believed, racial and gender relations are worse than ever. Despite all that’s been achieved in the political arena, the concerns of these disparate civil rights activists have conjoined over the past several decades to fight what is seemingly an omnipresent, all-encompassing oppression. These intertwined agendas now form the foundations of what is best described as a secular fundamentalism known colloquially as Social Justice.

    Paul Gottfried’s brilliant and essential examination of modern social justice politics, Multiculturalism and the Politics of Guilt, unpacks the origins of this movement in detail. Social justice activism has transformed from an arguably principled pursuit of gender and racial egalitarianism into a toxic and repressive cult that’s deeply and inextricably linked to the democratic managerial state. Paul Gottfried’s book provides a sober analysis of the philosophical and legislative roots of modern identity politics.

    The classical model of state ownership of industry that defined socialism throughout the 20th century has fallen out of favor. However, this agenda has been implemented through a more sophisticated form of socialism. Building from the insights of his previous work, After Liberalism, Gottfried argues that the democratic managerial welfare state is where the contemporary socialist priesthood and their fellow social engineers have built their new temple. The welfare state is not just limited to dispensing material goods. It must administer a therapeutic form of national unity. This new secular theocracy of multiculturalism and diversity has been integrated into social services, public education, and most prominently, in higher education. It is amplified by the high priests in Hollywood films, television and mass media with a fervor that rivals the most devout religious zealots. "
     
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    Is this a story about North Korea's bobsled team?
     
  8. Trotsky

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    Good lord, will Paul Gotffried just fucking die already?

    I can't believe I read as much as I did before bothering to check the author. So few people can make it to the age of 76 and still have the philosophical aims and means of a snarky teenager.
     
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  9. unimackpass

    unimackpass Brown Belt

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    Nice tactical response.
     
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    Tactical? Your thread isn't exactly flying off the shelf to the point of needing a pointed rebuttal.

    I'm just expressing my personal opinion, although I belief it to be premised on pretty undeniable realities, that Gottfried is both a barbaric thinker void of any introspection or dialectics, and that he's also just a prick that hasn't meaningfully contributed to policy discourse in decades. But, by all means, pore through his works. I nevertheless prefer you read him than provocateurs like Milo, although I suspect the former will inevitably lead you to the latter.
     
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  11. Happiness

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    Hahaha, perfect comment.
     
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  12. unimackpass

    unimackpass Brown Belt

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    I would expect no less coming from a Marxist, see it as a compliment actually.
    Will hand it to you though for admittedly moving on from communism.
     
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  13. Trotsky

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    You would expect a Marxist to realize that Paul Gottfried is a moron? Thanks. I do see that as a compliment.

    But, to be fair, there is no shortage of intelligent liberal and centrist capitalists who also freely acknowledge that.

    I doubt very much that you understand what Marxism or communism definitionally entail, other than their effect of scaring you senseless.

    But, yes, I don't think the organs of the developed world's economies are any longer appropriate for traditional communist organization.
     
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  14. unimackpass

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    Of course your going to call him a moron instead of dealing with content, can't really blame you for that.

    Glad to see you have moved on from that utopian ideal.
    I know it must of bin hard for you but don't settle in just yet.

    Hitchens can be a good model for finally not protecting yourself from "the onslaught of reality". He's sympathetic and encourages you to "do your own thinking."

     
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    Dude, you're not smart. It's probably "bin" difficult coming to terms with it, but I implore you do so nevertheless so the public is spared your incoherent, comma-spliced derivations of slightly less stupid people.

    Alright, that's it for me patronizing this dud of a thread and keeping it on the front page.
     
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    unimackpass Brown Belt

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    Taking the easy way out again I see. Of course you're not going to like this guy because he describes precisely what you're in favor of and the methods to get there. All you have left is attacking the guys age or spelling in the wr. Who wouldn't have seen that one coming?
     
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    How fitting i just watched this video. I'm not a fan of Gottfried, but what's happening in Europe is a tragedy.

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    Neither of these posts contain any kind of retort or counter argument.

    All that's been conveyed, is the fact that you have a personal dislike of the author that's based on no rational reason.

    If this is the best rebuttal that an alleged "lawyer" can come up with, you must spend a lot of time chasing ambulances.
     
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    Boy I ain't reading all that. Give me the cliffs.
     
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