Mirko Cro Cop Was 2-6 In the USA and UK

Correlation is not causation. It had nothing to do with the place. He simply couldn't adapt to the octagon, he fought in K-1 in 1996, then he was an amateur boxer from 1996-1999, K-1 from 1999-2003 and Pride until 2007. His entire arsenal was adapted to the ring.

His footwork didn't work in the octagon because he couldn't trap people in the corners and set them up for kicks. His offensive footwork was always plodding forward and in the UFC people would just circle away from his left. Just watch the Sanchez fight, Sanchez circles to his right, Mirko follows the exact same arc instead of cutting the space. If Sanchez wasn't so terrified, he could have circled away easily for 15 minutes. Kongo did the same thing, JDS, Shaub, etc...

He was always arrogant, and he went to the UFC at his peak of popularity and feared reputation. He didn't train for elbows, didn't train in an octagon, he thought he could waltz in and KO everyone. Gonzaga's KO destroyed his leg, his confidence and ruined his aura so even though he tried to fix those things later on (brought an octagon in his gym, etc), it was too late, the damage was done.
 
He peaked by winning the Pride tournament and then was on the decline afterwards. It also didn’t help that he didnt know how to use the cage properly and had never fought with elbows being legal on the ground before.
 
ThereIsNoSpoon said:
Correlation is not causation. It had nothing to do with the place. He simply couldn't adapt to the octagon, he fought in K-1 in 1996, then he was an amateur boxer from 1996-1999, K-1 from 1999-2003 and Pride until 2007. His entire arsenal was adapted to the ring.

His footwork didn't work in the octagon because he couldn't trap people in the corners and set them up for kicks. His offensive footwork was always plodding forward and in the UFC people would just circle away from his left. Just watch the Sanchez fight, Sanchez circles to his right, Mirko follows the exact same arc instead of cutting the space. If Sanchez wasn't so terrified, he could have circled away easily for 15 minutes. Kongo did the same thing, JDS, Shaub, etc...

He was always arrogant, and he went to the UFC at his peak of popularity and feared reputation. He didn't train for elbows, didn't train in an octagon, he thought he could waltz in and KO everyone. Gonzaga's KO destroyed his leg, his confidence and ruined his aura so even though he tried to fix those things later on (brought an octagon in his gym, etc), it was too late, the damage was done.
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AS a cro cop fan, i have to say it, you are correct.
 
Also he was likely on all sorts of roids in Japan, and either had to stop using entirely, or cut back when he got to fighting in the west where there was basic testing.

He admitted to taking HGH even after a negative test in his 2nd UFC run, but he gets a pass for some reason like all PRIDE guys do.

Funny given how he left the UFC a 2nd time years and years after his physical prime and just started destroying guys again, and finished on a 10 fight win streak.
 
ThereIsNoSpoon said:
Correlation is not causation. It had nothing to do with the place. He simply couldn't adapt to the octagon, he fought in K-1 in 1996, then he was an amateur boxer from 1996-1999, K-1 from 1999-2003 and Pride until 2007. His entire arsenal was adapted to the ring.

His footwork didn't work in the octagon because he couldn't trap people in the corners and set them up for kicks. His offensive footwork was always plodding forward and in the UFC people would just circle away from his left. Just watch the Sanchez fight, Sanchez circles to his right, Mirko follows the exact same arc instead of cutting the space. If Sanchez wasn't so terrified, he could have circled away easily for 15 minutes. Kongo did the same thing, JDS, Shaub, etc...

He was always arrogant, and he went to the UFC at his peak of popularity and feared reputation. He didn't train for elbows, didn't train in an octagon, he thought he could waltz in and KO everyone. Gonzaga's KO destroyed his leg, his confidence and ruined his aura so even though he tried to fix those things later on (brought an octagon in his gym, etc), it was too late, the damage was done.
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He was a ring fighter. He trained at home and only bought a cage after joining the UFC. Should have kept fighting in a ring, but money is money. Also, knees were shot and people expected the high kick.
 
ThereIsNoSpoon said:
Correlation is not causation. It had nothing to do with the place. He simply couldn't adapt to the octagon, he fought in K-1 in 1996, then he was an amateur boxer from 1996-1999, K-1 from 1999-2003 and Pride until 2007. His entire arsenal was adapted to the ring.

His footwork didn't work in the octagon because he couldn't trap people in the corners and set them up for kicks. His offensive footwork was always plodding forward and in the UFC people would just circle away from his left. Just watch the Sanchez fight, Sanchez circles to his right, Mirko follows the exact same arc instead of cutting the space. If Sanchez wasn't so terrified, he could have circled away easily for 15 minutes. Kongo did the same thing, JDS, Shaub, etc...

He was always arrogant, and he went to the UFC at his peak of popularity and feared reputation. He didn't train for elbows, didn't train in an octagon, he thought he could waltz in and KO everyone. Gonzaga's KO destroyed his leg, his confidence and ruined his aura so even though he tried to fix those things later on (brought an octagon in his gym, etc), it was too late, the damage was done.
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Thank you for clarifying the reasons though. I was horrified it might have been because he was taking performance enhancing drugs when he was in places that he knew he would not be tested and did better in those places because of it.

Nothing like a guy with a Tom Brady av to make me feel like my favorite fighter isn't cheating.

Huge pats fan by the way. Goodell is a bitch.
 
OldBoy91 said:
Also he was likely on all sorts of roids in Japan, and either had to stop using entirely, or cut back when he got to fighting in the west where there was basic testing.

He admitted to taking HGH even after a negative test in his 2nd UFC run, but he gets a pass for some reason like all PRIDE guys do.

Funny given how he left the UFC a 2nd time years and years after his physical prime and just started destroying guys again, and finished on a 10 fight win streak.
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How is being on roids in a place where everyone else is on roids an advantage?

If everyone he was fighting was doing the same thing then it explains absolutely nothing.
 
AmericanMMA said:
CC did ok in the United States and United Kingdom (2-6), but did better outside of it. 36-5-2(1)

Why do you think this is the case?
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Most of Cro Cops fights in the US and UK were after he had a long career and a shit load of fights. He had 26 Kickboxing fights and 86 amateur boxing matches before he had any MMA fights, dude had a shit load of miles on him and he started having bad knee and ankle issues at the end of his Pride career.
 
NoBiasJustMMA said:
Most of Cro Cops fights in the US and UK were after he had a long career and a shit load of fights. He had 26 Kickboxing fights and 86 amateur boxing matches before he had any MMA fights, dude had a shit load of miles on him and he started having bad knee and ankle issues at the end of his Pride career.
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He did end his career 11-1 after leaving the ufc. Had a lot of success late as well. Only one of those fights was in the USA/UK though.
 
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