Crime Memphis Police Officer Killed By Teen Who Got Released Without Bail A Month Earlier

Catch and release ain't working so well but bail bonds are racist though or something 🤔
Now I've heard people calling everything from personal accountability to even funnier Voter Id's being racist.....but surely the clowns aren't saying that requiring bail is now Racist.
 
Now I've heard people calling everything from personal accountability to even funnier Voter Id's being racist.....but surely the clowns aren't saying that requiring bail is now Racist.
it is the racial disparities of bail bonds on minorities
 
Ah yes, if only we had a dictator with unlimited power we could live in such a paradise as El Salvador....Meanwhile back in reality...

Thousands of innocent people jailed in El Salvador’s gang crackdown

Not a fan of the Constitution, I take it?

You said arresting and detaining people doesn't reduce crime... lol... So I provided an example that proved you dead wrong. Yes, his policies were extreme. But El Salvador was suffering from a more than extreme situation. No, those policies wouldn't fly here.

However, there's simple fixes and ending no bail release is one of them.

Back when Giuliani wasn't an idiot with Bratton... New York was turned from one of the most dangerous in the Nation to the Safest Large City (Over 1 million pop) in less than 4 years. However, many of the policies that were adopted in the 90's are now deemed racist and unacceptable by today's progressives... but that's another discussion. Giuliani and Bratton were seen as heros for turning this shit situation in New York around.

The FBI's report shows that New York City continues to lead the nation in the fight against crime. Over the last four years, of the 25 largest cities in the country, New York City has experienced the largest sustained crime decrease - 46.2 percent from 1993 to 1998. New York City has dropped to 166 on a list of 217 cities with populations over 100,000. In fact, New York City continues to be safer than cities such as Atlanta (1), Orlando (2), Miami (8), Fort Lauderdale (13), Winston-Salem, North Carolina (25), Minneapolis (32), Dallas (35), Phoenix (42) San Antonio (77), Philadelphia (85), Houston (93), Boston (110), San Francisco (114) and San Diego (160). New York City is also the safest city in the nation among cities with a population of over one million, including Dallas, Houston, Los Angeles, Phoenix, and San Diego.


Just 20 years ago, New York City was racked with crime: murders, burglaries, drug deals, car thefts, thefts from cars. (Remember the signs in car windows advising no radio?) Unlike many cities’ crime problems, New York’s were not limited to a few inner-city neighborhoods that could be avoided. Bryant Park, in the heart of midtown and adjacent to the New York Public Library, was an open-air drug market; Grand Central Terminal, a gigantic flophouse; the Port Authority Bus Terminal, “a grim gauntlet for bus passengers dodging beggars, drunks, thieves, and destitute drug addicts,” as the New York Times put it in 1992. In July 1985, the Citizens Crime Commission of New York City published a study showing widespread fear of theft and assault in downtown Brooklyn, Fordham Road in the Bronx, and Jamaica Center in Queens. Riders abandoned the subway in droves, fearing assault from lunatics and gangs.

New York’s drop in crime during the 1990s was correspondingly astonishing—indeed, “one of the most remarkable stories in the history of urban crime,” according to University of California law professor Franklin Zimring. While other cities experienced major declines, none was as steep as New York’s. Most of the criminologists’ explanations for it—the economy, changing drug-use patterns, demographic changes—have not withstood scrutiny. Readers of City Journal will be familiar with the stronger argument that the New York Police Department’s adoption of quality-of-life policing and of such accountability measures as Compstat was behind the city’s crime drop.

Yet that explanation isn’t the whole story. Learning the rest is more than an academic exercise, for if we can understand fully what happened in New York, we not only can adapt it to other cities but can ensure that Gotham’s crime gains aren’t lost in today’s cash-strapped environment.

Neighborhood organizations, too, began demanding that order be restored—even the local community board in the Tompkins Square Park area, which had once been quite tolerant of disorderly behavior. And the judiciary branch got involved as well, with the 1993 opening of the Midtown Community Court, which swiftly handles those who commit minor offenses.

By the early 1990s, these highly visible successes, especially in the subway, had begun to express themselves politically. Better than any other politician, Rudy Giuliani understood the pent-up demand for public order and built his successful 1993 run for mayor on quality-of-life themes. Once in office, he appointed Bratton, who had orchestrated the subway success and understood the importance of order maintenance, as New York’s police commissioner.

Under Bratton, the NYPD brought enormous capacities to bear on the city’s crime problem—particularly Compstat, its tactical planning and accountability system, which identified where crimes were occurring and held local commanders responsible for their areas. Giuliani and Bratton also gave the force’s members a clear vision of the “business” of the NYPD and how their activities contributed to it. In short, a theory previously advocated largely by elites filtered down to—and inspired—line police officers, who had constituted a largely ignored and underused capacity.

Once the NYPD joined the effort, the order-maintenance movement expanded even more. Port Authority, initially skeptical about Kiley’s approach in the subway and Grand Central and Penn Stations, took similar action to restore order; the Midtown Community Court spawned the Center for Court Innovation, a nonprofit organization that helped develop the Red Hook Community Court in 1998; and BIDs increased from 33 in 1989 to 61 in 2008.

Clearly, Giuliani and Bratton were heroes in reclaiming public spaces. But Glazer, Sturz, Gunn, Kiley, Biederman, and others were stalwarts as well. They set the stage for what was to follow. Current mayor Michael Bloomberg and police commissioner Ray Kelly also deserve kudos; rather than overturning the Bratton/Giuliani innovations and going their own way—as new administrators are wont to do—they adopted, refined, and strengthened them.


The police measure that most consistently reduces crime is the arrest rate... Felony arrest rates (except for motor vehicle thefts) rose 50 to 70 percent in the 1990s. When arrests of burglars increased 10 percent, the number of burglaries fell 2.7 to 3.2 percent. When the arrest rate of robbers rose 10 percent, the number of robberies fell 5.7 to 5.9 percent.
 
The question is was he a danger to the community as far as he should have been held.

He had converted a gun to a fully auto which would make him a danger.
 
Even for you this is an exceptionally childish and moronic post. You read a sad story and now you think the government should jail people indefinitely without being found guilty at a trial. That really is the response of an emotional child.
They are holding people at January 6th in solitary confinement without giving them a trial.
 
Leftards in this thread incapable of nuance. Idiots think bail shouldn't exist or else we live in a fascist police state that can imprison you indefinitely for nothing. Get off Reddit and learn to be a person.
 
Leftards in this thread incapable of nuance. Idiots think bail shouldn't exist or else we live in a fascist police state that can imprison you indefinitely for nothing. Get off Reddit and learn to be a person.
The part about nuance is hilarious coming from you. You tagged me in the thread about the guy murdering his date after my comments here. Leads me to believe that you can't see the difference between an obviously brutal murder and the original charges that this guy was arrested for. Having an illegal firearm and stealing cars is not the same as murder.

I don't know if there is a perfect system, but holding someone until trial on non violent charges doesn't seem like a great idea unless the trial can be concluded within a few days of the arrest. People arrested for violent crimes are still presumed innocent, but a judge should be able to determine if that person is a threat an withhold bail if necessary.
 
Oh look.

All the conservatives are all of a sudden jumping on that 'law and order' bandwagon in this thread, after arguing for months and even years that Trump is being unfairly prosecuted and/or past crimes he's committed were nothing but unfair 'liberal media' scrutiny or just the cost of doing business. Not hypocritical at all.

The teen who killed the cop should be locked up without a conviction, they say, but the orange god is having his constitutional rights violated. LOL
 
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They are holding people at January 6th in solitary confinement without giving them a trial.
Ok, so given what I have already said in here I would obviously be against that too unless there were further details that justified it.
 
This sucks but I personally hate the bail system. If I'm innocent until proven guilty than why am I having to wait in jail for my trial? On top of that why is it I have to pay non-refundable money to a for-profit company?

At the very least bail should be refundable and it should all go through the courts? Why have we inserted a profit system into this at all? The whole bail system just doesn't make sense to me.

So I'm sorry some cop got killed but I don't want to give the government anymore power than they already have. The same way I'm not giving up guns because people want to act crazy and kill a bunch of people with it. Freedom has a cost and this is it.
 
This sucks but I personally hate the bail system. If I'm innocent until proven guilty than why am I having to wait in jail for my trial? On top of that why is it I have to pay non-refundable money to a for-profit company?

At the very least bail should be refundable and it should all go through the courts? Why have we inserted a profit system into this at all? The whole bail system just doesn't make sense to me.

So I'm sorry some cop got killed but I don't want to give the government anymore power than they already have. The same way I'm not giving up guns because people want to act crazy and kill a bunch of people with it. Freedom has a cost and this is it.
I agree completely with everything you've said. And it does unfairly target the poor who can't come up with bail while people with money can. And that creates a two-tier justice system.
 
How do you explain that the murder rate had already drastically declined before the large spike of incarcerations had begun?



Most people don't know that the gang leaders were given preferential treatment and money to tell their gang members to cut down the violence and crime. But when they weren't given everything they wanted as well as clashes with other rivals, and most importantly, when they threw a tantrum and orders were sent out to kill as many civilians as possible, then Bukele had to go all in and put them ALL in prison indefinitely.
 
Oh look.

All the conservatives are all of a sudden jumping on that 'law and order' bandwagon in this thread, after arguing for months and even years that Trump is being unfairly prosecuted and/or past crimes he's committed were nothing but unfair 'liberal media' scrutiny or just the cost of doing business. Not hypocritical at all.

The teen who killed the cop should be locked up without a conviction, they say, but the orange god is having his constitutional rights violated. LOL

lol…

And you’re sucking DOJ/FBI cock while trying to defund local police

And progressive policies are putting police and citizens in danger
 
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lol…

And you’re sucking DOJ/FBI cock while trying to defund local police

And progressive policies are putting police and citizens in danger

No amount of deflection will obscure the fact that you are a raging hypocrite.

"Law and order" -except when it comes to dear leader, Steve Bannon, or Jan 6th 'sight seeing patriots'. I mean, I might be able to take this thread seriously if it weren't for all the comical hypocrisy.

By the way, I'm not a progressive nor a Democrat, so try again.

Maybe you should just stick to combing your outrage porn laden teeny bopper social media accounts, because you suck at this.
 
You sure about that?


People actually believe that El Salvador, a poor Central American country that went through a civil war 30 years ago is now competing with Canada's homicide rate?

Really?

A country that has the 18th highest human development index in the world neck and neck with #127 who went through a civil war 3 decades ago.
 
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