*Judoka or Wrestler: Which one would you prefer to be?*

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  1. Seiryoku Zenyo We are all one

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    Considering self-defense, fitness, environment, training parteners and trainers...

    ...would you prefer to be an Olympic level judoka or an Olympic level wrestler?

    I mean a long time judoka or long time wrestler, with no major interest in cross training or trying MMA.
     
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  2. Shinobi Yellow Card

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    Judo.
     
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    Wrestler
     
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  4. Marginal Judo White Belt

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    Judo!
     
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  5. EndlessCritic Gold Belt

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    basically end up crippled by 40 with either.
     
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  6. davidzilla White Belt

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    Wrestler. Elite level wrestler vs. elite level judoka, the wrestler wins. If you're good at wrestling, you can easily stop throws if you know someone has it in their arsenal. You just know not to tie up with guys and don't pumble for position. Just force yourself out of upperbody ties and the person can't throw you. It is very very easy if you know what you're doing. Wrestler here.

    *Self-defense - They're both good but wrestling covers more positions of the fight game
    *Fitness - Wrestling gets you in stupid shape because of the repetitive drilling and live
    *Environment - Very in your face coaches yelling at you to work harder. Wrestling environments will make you tougher and gain self confidence. You will learn that any goal is obtainable through grit, discipline, and hard work
    *Training partners and trainers - There is always going to be someone that you cross paths with that is simply better than you. You'll beat up on guys to eventually. These guys will become your second family.
     
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  7. bjj4everyone White Belt

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    I guess judo if I had to choose because there is submissions and there are more throws where you don't have to follow your opponent to the ground.
     
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  8. bjj4everyone White Belt

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    And the knowledge for using jackets in a street fight, but why not cross train?
     
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    Wrestler all day!

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    As far as basic self defense Judo. As far as which one to do for MMA wrestling without a doubt
     
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    Judo is pretty bad ass, it's more well rounded with the bonus of some basic but limited ground work. Maybe not super effective for MMA but a great grappling base no doubt. Hybrid judo/wrestlers like Frye or Mocco are bad ass.
     
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  12. Phronimos The truth don't have to be validated by ignorance.

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    I have a black belt in Judo.
    I regret not wrestling in university.
    I'm glad I learned Judo, but I should have done both.

    The grass is always greener on the other side.

    One great benefit of Judo, or other "martial arts" (yes, wrestling is also a martial art, but...)
    is that when you travel, you can always find a club and you have a bunch of friends, instantly.
    Being a musician is like this also.
     
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  13. opie Black Belt

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    boxer. more money
     
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  14. Phronimos The truth don't have to be validated by ignorance.

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    Kodokan judo has a solid ground game. Olympic (sport) judo, not so much.
    Most people do sport judo.
    The problem with Kodokan's ground game isn't one of scope, but one of focus.
    Some clubs spend a lot of time on their ground game, others spend less.
    There isn't much I saw in BJJ that I didn't learn in judo.
     
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    If MMA isn't even remotely involved, why is this in the UFC forums? Maybe move it to grappling technique or something.
     
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  16. Oooxente I have a badge.my life is complete.

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    JUDOH!!!


    love wrestling though but a perfect timed
    Throw is sooo satisfying.
     
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    Ummm Judoka but only if i had a chance to really learn old school dirty stuff. Like real Judo from a old school Master.

    the shit you dont learn at your local city club.
     
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    Judo so I can impress Ronda's fine ass.
     
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