Is boxing technique different in mma?

[Russ82]

Is the threat of the takedown why these guys getting ko'd are so reckless and sloppy?

 

[Cam Zink]

Just think about it.
You can't defend with 4 oz gloves like you can with a boxing glove, u have to dodge, lean.
Also there's the threat of the td like you said, hand position is different also.
With 4 oz. gloves KOs are much more usual.

 

[giusti825]

of course....kicks are a threat....tds....clinching....thai plum.....not wearing pillows on ur hands.....

its completely different......

if an elite boxer moved to mma, he would have to relearn striking to get rid of all the bad habits that wouldnt work in an actual fight....

 

[Venom]

Yes. Conor McGregor's boxing technique is close to what you'd call perfect for MMA. At least for his frame and reach. A fighter of a different build may have to box like Garbrandt (Tyson style), very compact and simple.

Though we have yet to see anyone with true WBC-level striking technique (McGregor's left cross is close)

 

[Venom]

You know how the jab is typically thrown in boxing? Or perhaps rather how it's taught?

You bring your lead hand forward from the guard position, extend with the fist straight out until the elbow locks, then you bring it back to guard.

Well, that kind of movement could be compromised with smaller gloves. I at first had no idea how much it changed the way you punch until I tried both types on. You start to feel a bit more vulnerable. o_0

 

[Nova Union]

Is swimming technique different in water polo?

 

[Deleted member 196663]

Changes everything...

 

[JayE]

Yes. Conor McGregor's boxing technique is close to what you'd call perfect for MMA. At least for his frame and reach. A fighter of a different build may have to box like Garbrandt (Tyson style), very compact and simple.

Though we have yet to see anyone with true WBC-level striking technique (McGregor's left cross is close)

Garbrandt doesn't box like Tyson. Tyson's style wasn't particularly simple, either. D'Amato's system was fairly complicated and very distinctive.

 

[egk]

The major difference between boxing and MMA is that MMA fighters don't throw combinations very often. They tend to throw single strikes at a time or one-two, jab cross because of the threat of takedowns. Fighters that do get in good combos once in a while wow the crowds because it's so uncommon in MMA.

 

[Venom]

Garbrandt doesn't box like Tyson. Tyson's style wasn't particularly simple, either. D'Amato's system was fairly complicated and very distinctive.

The way Garbrandt moves to cut off the cage and gets in the pocket is the closest thing in the current landscape to a mini-Tyson with MMA gloves.

 

[GypsyGold]

Yes, also wearing boots gives a better support than not wearing anything on your feet...

 

[JayE]

The way Garbrandt moves to cut off the cage and gets in the pocket is the closest thing in the current landscape to a mini-Tyson with MMA gloves.

Not really. I mean, Garbrandt likes his chances in pretty much any exchange he gets in at BW because he hits really hard and he can put himself in more advantageous positions in those exchanges than his opponents (on account of him actually having a real boxing background unlike the majority of MMA fighters), but there really isn't a ton in common with their styles. Against most of his BW opposition he'll just choose to walk them down without doing a whole hell of a lot to get into range as his opposition doesn't have the craft to avoid exchanges. However, when Garbrandt is facing fighters he actually respects (Cruz being the only one so far), he looked like a fairly prototypical boxer-puncher who actually preferred his opponent to come to him so he could counter.

Honestly, Garbrandt makes a very good case for classical boxing fundamentals being extremely important in MMA.

 

[Jimmy Jazz]

of course....kicks are a threat....tds....clinching....thai plum.....not wearing pillows on ur hands.....

its completely different......

if an elite boxer moved to mma, he would have to relearn striking to get rid of all the bad habits that wouldnt work in an actual fight....

comon man, an actual fight? mma has rules like any other. look how badly ufc react to getting eye poked and how easy it is to do.

 

[MMAPhilippines]

yes, very different. just the stance alone is very visibly different. Bas Rutten explains it best.

 

[thehighking]

The fact that you can punch a lot quicker with MMA gloves means you can get away with throwing a lot more looping punches than you could in boxing. Blocking is also a lot harder in MMA gloves

 

[thehighking]

Garbrandt doesn't box like Tyson. Tyson's style wasn't particularly simple, either. D'Amato's system was fairly complicated and very distinctive.

Tyson was the most technically skilled heavyweight ever. Todays heavyweights are winning by their sheer size and strength (coupled with excellent technique obviously)

 

[Alanf7]

Garbrandt doesn't box like Tyson. Tyson's style wasn't particularly simple, either. D'Amato's system was fairly complicated and very distinctive.

It's comes the closest in mma tho. Would be funny seeing Cody using the peek-a-boo stance.

 

[JayE]

Tyson was the most technically skilled heavyweight ever. Todays heavyweights are winning by their sheer size and strength (coupled with excellent technique obviously)

I don't know if I'd say that (as he was tremendously physically gifted in addition to not exactly being a flawless fighter), but he was very skilled.

I'd say Joshua and Wilder are two decent examples of technically flawed fighters getting by on raw physical attributes. Both started late and had very short amateur careers (even if they had significant success). They are gradually getting better technically (Joshua more rapidly than Wilder). Wlad was very skilled in his own way even if he did/does have substantial holes (he can't fight on the inside to save his life) in some areas. Fury, despite his issues outside the ring, is actually a fairly impressive boxer when he's actually engaged with the sport. He's got great feet for such a big man.

 

[Maori]

Just think about it.
You can't defend with 4 oz gloves like you can with a boxing glove, u have to dodge, lean.
Also there's the threat of the td like you said, hand position is different also.
With 4 oz. gloves KOs are much more usual.

The OG boxers fought bare knuckle, stances and techniques slowly died off with the introduction of gloves.fighters these days would do good to go back to the 1700-1800's styles to learn.

It was popular back then to never throw hooks and overhands because of the high rate of fractures.jabs,straights were the preferred techniques as it lessened the chance of fractures.

 

[JayE]

It's comes the closest in mma tho. Would be funny seeing Cody using the peek-a-boo stance.

It doesn't, really. Garbrandt isn't even a pure pressure fighter. He'll walk you down if he thinks you have nothing to offer, but as he showed against Cruz, he seems to be most comfortable moving a bit, letting his opponent put themselves in bad positions, and then countering them as they overextend. He's clearly versatile in the sense that he can do more than one different thing at a high level in MMA, but Tyson would not be one of the first people I think of when I'd look for comparable fighters in boxing.