Iran Says It’s Getting Planes From Boeing at Half the Price

[Arkain2K]

Farhad Parvaresh (L), Chairman and Managing Director of Iran Air, shakes the hand of Fletcher Barkdull (R), Boeing regional director on December 11, 2016
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Iran said on Sunday it had negotiated to pay only about half the announced price for 80 new Boeing airliners in an order that the American planemaker had said was worth $16.6 billion.

Replacing Iran's antiquated civil aviation fleet is one of the biggest economic opportunities of the 2015 accord to lift sanctions, which was negotiated by the outgoing administration of U.S. President Barack Obama. President elect Donald Trump is a vocal critic of the pact.

" Boeing has announced that its IranAir contract is worth $16.6 billion. However, considering the nature of our order and its choice possibilities, the purchase contract for 80 Boeing aircraft is worth about 50 percent of that amount," said Deputy Transport Minister Asghar Fakhrieh-Kashan, quoted by Iran's IRNA state news agency.

A Boeing spokesman in Dubai was not available to comment.

http://fortune.com/2016/12/26/iran-boeing-plane-deal/

 

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Iwalk.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Love how one of the caveats of the Iran Nuclear deal was how long Iran would have to play nice before getting trade sanctions lifted. The US wanted multiple Nuclear inspections and clearances beforehand -- Iran wanted them lifted immediately after signing. I wasnt as shocked that the States let Iran keep HWR's, and their centrifuge/ refining locations -- i was most shocked that the US caved on the milestones needed before sanctions got lifted.

Iran won that deal.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

Planes coming out of ME are likely to explode anyways, which means, Iran will be ordering in larger and large quantities.

 

[EvilWasLittle]

So, they're most likely using money Obama gave them to purchase planes from a U.S. owned company at half the price?

 

[Rod1]

Love how one of the caveats of the Iran Nuclear deal was how long Iran would have to play nice before getting trade sanctions lifted. The US wanted multiple Nuclear inspections and clearances beforehand -- Iran wanted them lifted immediately after signing. I wasnt as shocked that the States let Iran keep HWR's, and their centrifuge/ refining locations -- i was most shocked that the US caved on the milestones needed before sanctions got lifted.

Iran won that deal.

I think the point was that with Russia receiving sanctions itself and China long standing economic interests with Iran the international support for sanctions were diminishing and thus time was really on Iran's side.

 

[Rod1]

So, they're most likely using money Obama gave them to purchase planes from a U.S. owned company at half the price?

Kinda like Israel does, except this was actually Iran's money and not taxpayer funded.

 

[EvilWasLittle]

Kinda like Israel does, except this was actually Iran's money and not taxpayer funded.

It's still money they didn't have access to, which was the point.

 

[Rod1]

It's still money they didn't have access to, which was the point.

So instead of sitting in some banks generating interest for the Iranians, it will now be sitting in Boeings bank accounts.

Not much difference.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

I think the point was that with Russia receiving sanctions itself and China long standing economic interests with Iran the international support for sanctions were diminishing and thus time was really on Iran's side.

The sanctions were the carrot and really, the drive to to get Iran on board. The US pushed for milestones and probations to be put forth before the sanctions were lifted, and Iran bucked them and ended up winning.

They get to keep all their facilities, their research labs, cheap uranium and now get to go on a spending spree to acquire new goods. What stops them for buying on the cheap, stock up and then saying fuck it -- no more deal?

 

[Rod1]

The sanctions were the carrot and really, the drive to to get Iran on board. The US pushed for milestones and probations to be put forth before the sanctions were lifted, and Iran bucked them and ended up winning.

They get to keep all their facilities, their research labs, cheap uranium and now get to go on a spending spree to acquire new goods. What stops them for buying on the cheap, stock up and then saying fuck it -- no more deal?

Which milestones did Iran bucked on? and as i pointed out, it was not just the US, but China and Russia who also needed to be onboard, all while ISIS ran rampant with the help of Sunnis and Russia was receiving sanctions themselves.

At least now there are inspectors there, as opposed to before.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Which milestones did Iran bucked on? and as i pointed out, it was not just the US, but China and Russia who also needed to be onboard, all while ISIS ran rampant with the help of Sunnis and Russia was receiving sanctions themselves.

At least now there are inspectors there, as opposed to before.

Us wanted 2 years, x amount of complete inspections and proof agreed upon decommissioning of certain sites; then the trade sanctions could be lifted. Iran wanted immediate access to trade.

and Iran has already been pretty shady with inspections

http://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-re...officers-complicating-nuclear-deal-1438813826

 

[EvilWasLittle]

So instead of sitting in some banks generating interest for the Iranians, it will now be sitting in Boeings bank accounts.

Not much difference.

We shouldn't be giving the Iranians shit, especially fully capable planes that could be used for transporting things other than people, for the way they threaten us constantly.

Big difference.

 

[Rod1]

We shouldn't be giving the Iranians shit, especially fully capable planes that could be used for transporting things other than people, for the way they threaten us constantly.

Big difference.

You are not giving to them, they are buying them, they could buy from the Russians instead.

 

[EvilWasLittle]

You are not giving to them, they are buying them, they could buy from the Russians instead.

We gave it to them by giving them money they shouldn't have had access to in the first place. Hopefully Boeing bugs the planes.

 

[Dramovitch]

Iran just bought $10 billion in arms from Russia.

Why would the US want more money going to Russia to buy their planes instead?

It isn't like the only places that sells planes is the US.

 

[Egelo]

We gave it to them by giving them money they shouldn't have had access to in the first place. Hopefully Boeing bugs the planes.

lol its their money, you gave them nothing. You just returned what was theirs.

And don't worry, Boeing is giving nothing at half price. Now murica owns them a little more, they need parts they got to come to you for them.

 

[EvilWasLittle]

lol its their money, you gave them nothing. You just returned what was theirs.

And don't worry, Boeing is giving nothing at half price. Now murica owns them a little more, they need parts they got to come to you for them.

We returned what was theirs in accordance to a deal, which they've broken plenty of times. We should have kept the money and the sanctions on them.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

somebody shoop "Art of the Deal" in the Iranian's hand.

 

[Egelo]

We returned what was theirs in accordance to a deal, which they've broken plenty of times. We should have kept the money and the sanctions on them.

And what good is that ?

you just sold billion worth of shit to them, thousands of muricans will have jobs thanks to it for years to come.