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You mean it was his weakness. It's not anymore.A striker vs a striker is a bad match up?
Ummmm Ngannou’s weakness is wrestling.
You mean it was his weakness. It's not anymore.A striker vs a striker is a bad match up?
Ummmm Ngannou’s weakness is wrestling.
Even Gane does not believe that. He knew he had lost, and apologize to his fans before the decision was announced.….Then that means jones is the lineal heavyweight champion
I know I’ll get some replies like “no way you think gane win the 5th, ngannou laid on top of him for half the round!”
but I think at this point there are a lot more people who realise actual impact wins fights, not smudging
Gane had more strikes, a takedown, and a submission attempt. Ngannou had a reversal and a few mosquito punches on the ground
So if you think gane win the 5th, then that means gane won the belt that night, defended it against tuivasa, and lost it to jones
I’m not a jones fan, maybe one of you has argued with me about him and can attest to that
But I don’t think a reversal and half guard is worth more than what gane did
Gane's biggest strength is to make power punchers miss, and outplay them with jabs and long kicks. He made a career out of that. Of course he was bad matchup for Ngannou, particularly for Ngannou with a knee injury, in a style matchup were footwork makes all the difference.A striker vs a striker is a bad match up?
Ummmm Ngannou’s weakness is wrestling.
Didnt look that way vs Stipe the second time.A striker vs a striker is a bad match up?
Ummmm Ngannou’s weakness is wrestling.
Why did gane lose the fight? What in the scoring criteria did ngannou do to win that round?Even Gane does not believe that. He knew he had lost, and apologize to his fans before the decision was announced.
Gane's biggest strength is to make power punchers miss, and outplay them with jabs and long kicks. He made a career out of that. Of course he was bad matchup for Ngannou, particularly for Ngannou with a knee injury, in a style matchup were footwork makes all the difference.
And no, Ngannou's weakness is not wrestling.
What did ngannou do that according to the judging criteria would give him that round?If you "Think" you can fly and then jump off the grand canyon it doesn't make you Superman. Same thing applied to thinking someone won a fight they lost.
He had 0 bounce on his footwork tho. Looked like he was almost walking at Gane at some points of the fightI thought Gane made 1 mistake that cost him the fight.
Always laugh at the “NNN won on a bad knee”. Dude showed zero signs of his knee being compromised and was shooting power doubles ffs.
Now I’m not disputing he needed a surgery (like many athletes do) just often they’re still able to compete and the entire “one knee Francis” is a major exaggeration to dismiss Gane winning on the feet.
He got the surgery he needed a month and a half after the fight. But the entire “he fought on one leg” was extremely hyperbolic by his camp. He made it through a 5 round fight showing zero signs of issues. We all know that the last thing you’ll do on bad knees is shoot doubles.
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Francis was grinding his knees into the canvas quite a bit of the fight and bouncing around just fine on them. He wasn’t this fragile one legged Thiago Santos people made him out to be.
Didnt look that way vs Stipe the second time.
Even Gane does not believe that. He knew he had lost, and apologize to his fans before the decision was announced.
Gane's biggest strength is to make power punchers miss, and outplay them with jabs and long kicks. He made a career out of that. Of course he was bad matchup for Ngannou, particularly for Ngannou with a knee injury, in a style matchup were footwork makes all the difference.
And no, Ngannou's weakness is not wrestling.
Jon is the Line heavyweight champion
That's cute. Meanwhile, here on planet Earth, all 3 judges gave Ngannou the round, as did 22 out of 23 media scores. Again, I was rooting for Gane, but it was a very clear round.People who value impactful actions like striking, and a takedown into a submission attempt gave him the 5th. Ngannou didn’t do anything, he just sat on gane
Gane lost the round because he got swepted, ngannou then took a nap on him. nothing in the scoring criteria states lying on top of a man while doing no damage, no transitions and no sub attempts should win you around even if it was for 4:30 seconds.Why did gane lose the fight? What in the scoring criteria did ngannou do to win that round?
Like he did against Stipe and Lewis? He looked the same as he always does.He had 0 bounce on his footwork tho. Looked like he was almost walking at Gane at some points of the fight
Great, so you don’t think judges can get it wrong and you don’t think the media can misinterpret the scoring criteria.That's cute. Meanwhile, here on planet Earth, all 3 judges gave Ngannou the round, as did 22 out of 23 media scores. Again, I was rooting for Gane, but it was a very clear round.
You're engaging in strange mental gymnastics to support the silly idea that Jones is the lineal champion.
I’m not a jones fan, I argue with people on these boards all the time about how he beat middleweights, washed fighters, got gifted decisions in a weaker division, I’m not a jones fan, just realisticHopefully Jon’s fans retire when he does
22/23 people can be wrong.That's cute. Meanwhile, here on planet Earth, all 3 judges gave Ngannou the round, as did 22 out of 23 media scores. Again, I was rooting for Gane, but it was a very clear round.
You're engaging in strange mental gymnastics to support the silly idea that Jones is the lineal champion.
Great, so you don’t think judges can get it wrong and you don’t think the media can misinterpret the scoring criteria.
I’ve literally argued with people that jones’ legacy is massively overrated and has been for a very long time, this has nothing to do with WANTING jones to be the lineal champion, it’s just that I truly believe he is
What was more impactful, what gane did or what ngannou did?
Got it. So all the judges, 96% of the media, and the vast majority of fans are wrong because none of us understand the scoring criteria. Sounds legit.22/23 people can be wrong.
I for one personally, take jones beating gane in the highest of regards. way better than beating stipe or francis. People say he was a tailor made easy fight for jones, I think he's the rightful King, and I do think he could beat both blaydes and aspinall.
Yes, yous are all wrong, becuase control time isn’t even in the scoring criteria. AlsoGot it. So all the judges, 96% of the media, and the vast majority of fans are wrong because none of us understand the scoring criteria. Sounds legit.
Gane absolutely WAS tailor made for Jones. He got wrestlef*cked by a non-wrester (Francis) on a blown-out knee. Of course Jones was going to maul him on the ground. "Could" Gane beat Blaydes or Aspinall? Sure. A lot of things "could" happen. But the most likely outcome of those fights is Gane getting mauled on the ground.
meh, that was 40 year old Stipe at the end of his career. JDS post Cain maulings was 1-1 taking down prime Stipe, and Prime Stipe was 1-18 against JDS.Didnt look that way vs Stipe the second time.