Law House passes antisemitism bill that will target free speech and criticism of Israel

[HereticBD]

Is the "professional agitator" narrative starting to take with these "protests" yet, Lefties?

 

[dildos]

 

[djacobox372]

The bill would mandate that when the Department of Education enforces federal anti-discrimination laws it uses a definition of antisemitism put forward by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance.

Here's that definition from the IHRA, tell me exactly what is wrong with this definition?

“Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”

 

[djacobox372]

Make no mistake, the US government is willing to go as far as shred the constitution to protect Israel. This anti-zionism criticism Bill (which is what it really is) should be the scandal of all scandals, but you won't hear much of a peep from all the free speech warriors.

What does this definition of antisemitism from the IHRA have to do with Israel?

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

This is a true litmus test for all so-called "freedom of speech absolutists". I don't care if you are pro-Israel or pro-Palestine, this is anti-constitutional and a blatant slap in the face to the first amendment.

I've always said that 99% of people are anti-freedom of speech. It just takes the right subject for them to show their true colors.

This is the United States' first attempt at making hate speech laws and creating an "other" class that is free from criticism. If this actually gets signed into law, you'll have hate speech laws passed for every marginalized groups in response and you now have a parallel society and speech silenced.

 

[Deorum]

The far-right populists are the last defenders of civil rights.

Constitutional Rights. And they shouldn't even need "defending" -- they are inalienable rights written into the very foundation of the country by its framers to protect individual liberties. You don't fuck with them. Civil Rights are a more modern construct based on policy and legislation aimed at equity and social justice. They're alright, but it's comparatively sissy stuff about "Discrimination! " and whatnot that isn't particularly fundamental.

So you guys don't have the first amendment? 320 people in the House sure seem to think it's not relevant anymore.

Right. I'm totally on Israel's side but this seems ridiculous to me. The college kids are probably already violating multiple rules and laws as it is and this isn't needed. I do not like this.

It's tremendously concerning and the swiftness of it is suspicious as fuck, but let's wait and see what happens. The House creates and passes all kinds of bills that never actually come to fruition because the lumbering Senate stalls and eventually kills them. It needs to pass that chamber first before the White House can sign it into law. After that, it will need to survive what is guaranteed to be a ferocious legal challenge that likely makes way up to the Supreme Court where it can (and should) be struck down as unconstitutional.

 

[Osculater]

So we are turning into England now

 

[Osculater]

Also, how insane is it that we have a bill that PASSED THE HOUSE that specifically says what you can or can’t say about how the Jews treated Jesus Christ.

Lets Stop this jew on jew crime

 

[Osculater]

 

[jefferz]

Constitutional Rights. And they shouldn't even need "defending" -- they are inalienable rights written into the very foundation of the country by its framers to protect individual liberties. You don't fuck with them. Civil Rights are a more modern construct based on policy and legislation aimed at equity and social justice. They're alright, but it's comparatively sissy stuff about "Discrimination! " and whatnot that isn't particularly fundamental.




It's tremendously concerning and the swiftness of it is suspicious as fuck, but let's wait and see what happens. The House creates and passes all kinds of bills that never actually come to fruition because the lumbering Senate stalls and eventually kills them. It needs to pass that chamber first before the White House can sign it into law. After that, it will need to survive what is guaranteed to be a ferocious legal challenge that likely makes way up to the Supreme Court where it can (and should) be struck down as unconstitutional.

Lumbering Senate? The House wasted 28 days electing the Speaker of the House, 5 on McCarthy and 23 on Johnson.
Just hours ago, MGT said she's going to be bringing up a motion to vacate Johnson. More wasted time.


This is about the only thing the House has done since Republicans took control.


And let's not forget about this guy

 

[Poon Goon]

Having quickly read the text seems it just basically extends existing anti discrimination laws to include common jewish ancestry or whatever. I don't see where it outlaws any speech. To me this is basically telling colleges that harassment on campus for being jewish is, by law, to be treated the same as harassment for being black, gay, etc.

Did anyone ever refute this post?

 

[Phisher]

you know who i want to hear speak of it? Jordan Petersen, who's very outspoken about free speech. i want to see if he has character about it or if he'll just use some rhetoric sophistry to avoid it.

All those conservative "free speech" warriors have always been full of shit on this issue.

There has been a bunch of insanity regarding criticism of Israel in the US for the past decade, like Israel loyalty pledges that state contractors have to sign, and none of them have ever talked about it.

Their idea of fighting for free speech is hand-winging about "cancel culture" (which is just being criticized by groups of people on social media who have no institutional power), and telling college students with left-wing views to shut up and accept their ideas uncritically.

 

[jeff7b9]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

[Deorum]

Lumbering Senate? The House wasted 28 days electing the Speaker of the House, 5 on McCarthy and 23 on Johnson.
Just hours ago, MGT said she's going to be bringing up a motion to vacate Johnson. More wasted time.


This is about the only thing the House has done since Republicans took control.


And let's not forget about this guy

The entire purpose of existence for a House Republican is to fuck around and obstruct things, period. And frankly, the last thing we need is a bunch of new federal laws being passed anyway. No, thanks.

Yes, the Senate traditionally moves at a much slower pace regardless of which party has control over a particular chamber of a legislative session. How many months ago did the House pass the 'Tax Relief for American Families and Workers Act'? The Senate still hasn't even taken it up, lol.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

The far left were the largest block of Representatives who voted against the bill (the squad, Ro Khanna, etc.). Republicans were the ones who wrote the bill and got it passed, although it had bi-partisan support.

This post will get ignored by all the Sherfronters here.

But when a group of pink haired lesbians shout down some comedian they find bigoted or something, there will be 20 pages of them losing their shit about how "the left hates free speech!"

Truly a low IQ group.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Yeah, that's kind of the point. You can't rail against muh hate speech when it's criticizing the open border or saying there are only 2 genders, then suddenly call it free speech when it's hatred you agree with.

Link to a piece of legislation started and almost unanimously supported by Democrats aimed at outlawing border patrol criticism or gender opinions, please.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Deorum]

Did anyone ever refute this post?

Maybe.

I read some of the bill contents

Its ridicules

 

[Dalarna3]

Hopefully the courts stick to their guns on this one. Very obviously unconstitutional.

 

[A Very Serious Cat]

I'm sure israel using its influence in American politics to ban criticism of themselves will really help combat antisemitic sentiment

 

[Two Crows]

Imo that is a misinterpretation of the scope and purpose outlined in the text.

So, are you saying you feel this bill, which was drafted and rushed through both houses, out of nowhere, at a blistering rate with bi-lateral support, was simply a coincidence with these protests and the two have nothing in common?

Or perhaps that a bill that would do NOTHING and would not be useful to them in the current situation despite being treated this way?

Interesting stance.