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I’m a big Herman Miller fan but yeah I couldn’t find one used for $400-500. Wasn’t willing to drop $650+
Companies exist that purchase closed downed businesses furniture for resale.
I’m a big Herman Miller fan but yeah I couldn’t find one used for $400-500. Wasn’t willing to drop $650+
Yes, couldn’t locate any close by. Any I found had shipping costs that didn’t make sense to me. I have a Herman Miller at work, and have at various jobs for awhile. They’re nice but too much for my house.Companies exist that purchase closed downed businesses furniture for resale.
I personally hate that style of chair, and even if you lucked out to find one cheaply, it would almost certainly be their most common mid-back model. There's a reason they want that for offices. Don't know why anyone would find that satisfactory for a gaming chair.Yes, couldn’t locate any close by. Any I found had shipping costs that didn’t make sense to me. I have a Herman Miller at work, and have at various jobs for awhile. They’re nice but too much for my house.
I personally hate that style of chair, and even if you lucked out to find one cheaply, it would almost certainly be their most common mid-back model. There's a reason they want that for offices. Don't know why anyone would find that satisfactory for a gaming chair.
Very informative, thanks. I had one of these:No.
Most of the bestselling chairs you see on places like Amazon are, but not Secret Lab. They're based in Singapore, not China. The have two assembly plants in the USA: one in Tennessee that services the east coast, and one in Utah that services the west coast. These offer domestic customer service support.
Most of the cheap gaming and office chairs from China have no company foothold here, or nothing more than some closet-sized window "office" with a phone in it so they can claim an address. It's easy to tell which these are because the chairs won't even ship from that location. This is the first of your tells. The easiest way to tell the cheap chairs from the good chairs are three:
- Where is the headquarters (i.e. not China), and do they have a separate domestic presence for customer service and returns?
- What is the warranty on the chair?
- How much does the chair weigh? (not the weight capacity-- the weight itself)
Almost every bestseller you see on Amazon fails #1 right off the bat. This might seem unfair because it's blanketing, because a few Chinese companies are trying to be competitive at the higher end, but it's a minefield trying to pick them out from the rest unless you want to spend your day peeling through return policies and business registrations, and even then...good luck. A second minefield is that even among these more ambitious companies they often only really make an effort with a few models out of dozens. The rest-- almost their entire inventories-- are crap.
For example, NBA star Gordon Hayward has a deal with a company called "Autofull" based in Beijing which is actually owned by the supergiant Xiaomi. His chair and a few others from them offer a 2-year limited warranty, and even a lifetime warranty on the steel frames; though that doesn't mean much-- the steel is not the part that will break. Same goes for GTRacing which is based in Shanghai and their best chairs. However, for both, most of their chairs offer a pitiful 30-day warranty. Furthermore, they don't cover shipping within warranty. Finally, they use courier services to handle shipping and returns which indicates they don't have a real USA presence.
Warranty is key. I almost spit my coffee all over my computer when I saw "30-day warranty" for Amazon's bestselling office chair. Almost every chair on their top lists offers 30 days, 90 days, or if you're damn lucky, 1-year. That's unacceptable. Look for 2-years at a minimum. Secret Lab offers a limited 3-year warranty, and like a few other companies, they expand this to 5-years if you simply jump through the hoop of taking a picture of your chair after assembling it and posting it your social media with the hashtag #SecretLab. I really like this idea. Win-win. They get marketing, you get a better warranty for free.
Third, look at the weights. Most of these cheap chairs, even those boasting a higher weight capacity, range from 20-35 pounds, and there's no correlation to the quoted weight capacity. That's one of the reasons you know that the quoted weight capacity is dreamed up by the manufacturer, and doesn't mean anything. There's no standard. Given, you can make a sturdy chair with less weight if you have incredible design (ex. Herman Miller, Steelcase). However, generally speaking, the lighter chairs are chairs where the manufacturer cheaped out. I got the Secret Lab Titan XL. It weighs 79.4 lbs fully assembled: an absolute tank. Most of the best chairs weighed between 55 lbs to this 79.4 lbs (which was the heaviest I saw).
It isn't a coincidence that the companies that tend to charge more didn't just do one of the things above, but almost always got all three right, and vice versa for those garbage Chinese chairs which failed all three.
Secret Lab (Singapore), Maxnomic (USA), Noblechairs (Germany), Vertagear (England), and DXRacer (Sweden) are examples of solid companies. I also noticed Cooler Master (Taiwan) offers a gaming chair. One of the only Chinese chairs I noticed that was solid was the AKRacing Master Series Max. Five year limited warranty, 68 pound weight, and they sell through Wal-Mart which is attractive because you get the security of Wal-Mart's return policies and customer service.
So it goes. There is always the matter of preference.Very informative, thanks. I had one of these:
I believe they're a UK company. Paid £230 or so and it was decent. I think I'd stick to an office chair next time, though.
so after using it 4 hours the first day
MY ASS KILLS!!!
I really hope it softens up soon because it was painful to sit in after awhile
Haha that's my only gripe with my Titan - if I sit for too long my ass hurts when I stand up. It feels fine when I'm actually in it though.
Real talk on gaming chairs versus office chairs and then two recommendations at end: (time to watch is 1m)
Ever wondered what gaming chairs those pro gamers, YouTubers and streamers all use? Me too, so I conducted a study of 85 of the most popular YouTubers and streamers to find out, and I’m going to share the results with you right here.
So, what is the number one gaming chair that popular streamers and YouTubers use? It turns out that it’s the Secretlab Titan. More popular YouTubers and streamers use the Secretlab Titan than any other gaming chair, according to the results of this study. However, Secretlab isn’t the most popular gaming chair brand on the market. That title belongs to DXRacer, which is the brand of choice for more than a quarter of all the influencers in this study.
The Results of the Study at a Glance
Here are the main takeaways from this study:
- DXRacer is the most popular brand – it’s the brand of choice for more than a quarter (26.8%) of YouTubers and Streamers
- The Secretlab Titan chair is the most popular chair model – 7 popular influencers (8.2%) use this exact model of chair
- Almost a fifth of YouTubers and Streamers used a chair from a non-gaming chair brand – 19.6% of YouTubers/streamers in this study used either a Herman Miller chair (15.9%) or an Ikea chair (3.7%)
- The top 3 brands command the majority of the influencer market share – The majority of YouTubers/Streamers use chairs from one of just three brands: DXRacer (26.8%), Herman Miller (15.9%), and Secretlab (12.2%). Collectively, these brands account for 54.9% of chairs used by YouTubers and Streamers.
- I identified 12 different brands used by streamers and YouTubers – after discounting chairs for which the brand wasn’t definitively identifiable, I found 12 different brands used by YouTubers and streamers
- I identified 28 different chairs used by streamers and YouTubers – there were 28 different models/Series of chairs identified in this study, excluding those for which the exact model of the chair could not be identified.
I don't think that degree of rigour was uploader's goal given the some 50-second runtime and platform uploaded to; rather, that people in the market for gaming chairs are equally or better served looking into office chairs.Frankly, this video is nonsense. He offers no evidence or materially cogent framework of reasoning to back his claims. The entire premise for his opinion is that office chairs are more comfortable for long-term use because "capitalism" is very good at maximizing the productivity of workers. Of course, if one is capable of an iota of deductive reasoning, they realize how absurd this is.
Why? Well, the chair companies who sell chairs to corporations suffer no detriment, nor enjoy increased profits, based on how comfortable or productive the workers are. There is zero profit-performance link there. Second, many corporations cheap out on the chairs they provide which is why so many in office spaces buy their own chair for themselves. Third, corporations figured out long ago that comfort isn't necessarily their principal concern when seeking to maximize the profitability of their employees. That's true as far as their concern for the mental or emotional state of their employees, not just the physical one. Their chief concern as far as the physical well-being of employees is that it doesn't ultimately cost them more in associated health care fees.
This website seeks to capitalize on chairs it notes as the best ones for purchase, but it discloses this affiliate relationship. Furthermore, while sponsorship likely plays a key role in why certain streamers use the chairs they do, who often use their chairs more than 10+ hours a day, most of the top streamers make enough they could easily afford to forego a minor sponsorship deal from a chair company in the interest of their own comfort.
https://topgamingchair.com/gaming-chairs-that-popular-streamers-youtubers-use/
Problem with this chair is it may be too comfy, ha. You ever doze off in that badboy?
Yes it's where I slept when our 2nd child was born lolProblem with this chair is it may be too comfy, ha. You ever doze off in that badboy?