Because I remember chuck Liddell getting knocked out by a short arm punch from a MW in Rich Franklin and getting knocked out several times prior. He had to call it quits. Then I see Werdums "losses" to Overeem and I'm like dude Werdum arguably won both of those fights he "lost" to Overeem, landing the cleaner punches in the Strikeforce fight. Controlling more of the fight in the UFC. Losing isnt everything. It's how you lose. When cm punk lost, he showed nothing. He showed he doesn't belong there. With artem lobov was his performance against fili really "dude I need to retire" worthy?