Funny Fedor fought in an organization where there was no steroid testing and fighters were encouraged to take steroids. Oh and there were even known fixed fights.It's funny that "juice" support jones.
Dear Daniel Cormier: This is how to counter a left kick.....
- Thread starter Summoning
- Start date
- Joined
- Oct 21, 2015
- Messages
- 2,057
- Reaction score
- 752
It's not just that, his training was way off. He was even in a parlaiment at the time (I think around when he lost to Randleman.)
Also, somewhere along the way he lost that killer instinct.
Watch his expression when he TKO's Sapp.
That's an expression of a mindset you have to have in a fight, especially in UFC.
I think he lost that, even before UFC.
Ask Mayweather, or his opponents.
DC made an amateur mistake, quite pathetic one at that.
Strikers fuck up their defense due to fear of takedowns, wtf fear should a wrastlin olympian have of a td attempt.
- Joined
- Jun 4, 2003
- Messages
- 17,264
- Reaction score
- 6,901
Mayweather is one of the greatest defensive fighters ever. Maybe the best.
Jones is a better wrestler than DC.
That's why you mix up your strikes, high low.
It's quite obvious he made a mistake . He was kod
- Joined
- Oct 10, 2005
- Messages
- 5,997
- Reaction score
- 348
lol I think Fedor would have beaten him easily, he was much more technical and explosive than DC. proime Fedor would have finished Jones too btw
- Joined
- Nov 11, 2015
- Messages
- 5,420
- Reaction score
- 3,617
Any excuse to make a thread about Fedor is a good one, sorry
- Joined
- Nov 22, 2015
- Messages
- 8,149
- Reaction score
- 33
Yeah, but the fact that Cro Cop could literally break your arms by blocking his kick negates all this.
And he didn't setup kicks? What? Cro Cop didn't just throw high kicks, genius.
- Joined
- Nov 22, 2015
- Messages
- 8,149
- Reaction score
- 33
I'm one of the bigger Jones is GOAT proponents, but Cro Cop could literally kill him in a fight.
Jones wouldn't threaten him with power, and his fancy kicks, and elbows wouldn't phase a K-1 legend. Cro Cop would leg kick him once, and Jones would be on full back pedal mode. Then it would just be a matter of time before Cro Cop landed a straight left to his jaw, or a body or high kick to finish him off.
Let's not be ridiculous. And LMAO at the people that actually believe Jones would finish Fedor in 1 round. Obviously the more hardcore Jones fanboys, but Fedor would discombobulate Jones' brain within 2-3 rounds.
Jones wouldn't threaten him with power, and his fancy kicks, and elbows wouldn't phase a K-1 legend. Cro Cop would leg kick him once, and Jones would be on full back pedal mode. Then it would just be a matter of time before Cro Cop landed a straight left to his jaw, or a body or high kick to finish him off.
Let's not be ridiculous. And LMAO at the people that actually believe Jones would finish Fedor in 1 round. Obviously the more hardcore Jones fanboys, but Fedor would discombobulate Jones' brain within 2-3 rounds.
- Joined
- Sep 17, 2009
- Messages
- 19,273
- Reaction score
- 1,407
Lol...like DC was showing great kick defense reaction in his other fights. Face it...he just didn't defend kicks like you are supposed to and didn't run into any heavy kickers, aside from maybe Rumble.
- Joined
- Nov 22, 2015
- Messages
- 8,149
- Reaction score
- 33
OMG I'm watching Fedor vs Cro Cop and his highlights right now, and good lord, this man is so disrespected and underrated. Prime Fedor tree nuclear missiles with such ferociousness and quickness, there's almost no way Jones could handle those blows at range, or in the clinch. No fucking way.
Shit, if Texerira could survive and land his blows against Jones, with his slow as mollases ass, Fedor would do more than a number on him. And Fedor would have a game plan for him as well, so it's not like he's going in there just fighting. He'd go in there, and land something huge within the first 30 seconds, guaranteed.
Shit, if Texerira could survive and land his blows against Jones, with his slow as mollases ass, Fedor would do more than a number on him. And Fedor would have a game plan for him as well, so it's not like he's going in there just fighting. He'd go in there, and land something huge within the first 30 seconds, guaranteed.
- Joined
- Dec 16, 2015
- Messages
- 12,094
- Reaction score
- 1,201
Ah. Thanks for these Mitrione gifs, what an animal!
Anyone can break their arm by blocking a kick. And who are all these opponents that got their arms broken by blocking a CC kick?
But also, what's your point here? We know anyone can get their arm broken blocking a kick, but what fighter isn't going to block a kick because of the slight risk they might get their arm broken? This is a silly argument and the possibility of a broken arm negates nothing.
What does the idea (that is not near fact) that CC could "break arms" negate exactly?
kicked in the arm > kicked in the head
Also, no one said CC didn't set up kicks that was you who said that. I said, " he didn't mix up or set up the kick nearly as much."
- Joined
- Sep 17, 2009
- Messages
- 19,273
- Reaction score
- 1,407
You realize getting arms broken is why Thais lean back/fade high kicks sometimes, right? Not saying it's easy but it's definitely taught for that reason. I don't expect many MMA fighters to be doing this shit anytime soon though lol.
You realize getting arms broken is why Thais lean back/fade high kicks sometimes, right? Not saying it's easy but it's definitely taught for that reason. I don't expect many MMA fighters to be doing this shit anytime soon though lol.
Go back and read the comment of who I was replying to. The guy made it sound like CC was just breaking dudes arms nonstop. No one's denying taking a bunch of shots on your arms increases the likelihood of them break one day especially when it's all you do. This isn't Muay Thai it's MMA.
The guys argument was essentially "CC kicks breaks arms" that "negates" everything you said. Of course what he said negated nothing I said and had no real connection to the main point we were discussing.
- Joined
- Aug 23, 2012
- Messages
- 2,496
- Reaction score
- 740
- Joined
- Sep 17, 2009
- Messages
- 19,273
- Reaction score
- 1,407
While what you're saying is true, the real takeaway is that DC had bad reactions to kicks. Yes, high level fighters can get away with unorthodox techniques but nobody is teaching to defend kicks the way DC does (and not just in this fight).
Which is strange, considering he spars Rockhold a lot but I guess Luke isn't exactly known for his defense either...
As far as this being MMA and not MT, that's fine and all but it doesn't mean you can't use certain techniques from it. Is there really anyone with reactions fast enough to shoot in for a TD after missing a head kick where the other guy leans back/fades the kick?
- Joined
- Sep 18, 2008
- Messages
- 28,469
- Reaction score
- 36,576
This is not fine...
Counter a left Kick to the body...
Counter a left high Kick to the head...
This is how to counter when you are rocked..
And this is How to protect your body and head at the same time.. (Basic Kickboxing)
--------------------------------------------------Respectfully, Summoning.----------------------------------------------
I love DC, but this is still a great post.
Prime Fedor was a sight to behold. But it's 10 years ago he was in his prime.
Jones is more physically gifted and would probably be a difficult match-up for even prime Fedor.
Cormier could also win with a lay-and-pray approach I guess, although he'd have to be careful not to get submitted. I've seen him leave his arm out on top of his opponents and Fedor would've snapped it right off. Don't forget how quickly he slapped that armbar on The Hammer. It was surreal quickness.
The game is evolving, but Fedor will always be the original badass.
Jones is more physically gifted and would probably be a difficult match-up for even prime Fedor.
Cormier could also win with a lay-and-pray approach I guess, although he'd have to be careful not to get submitted. I've seen him leave his arm out on top of his opponents and Fedor would've snapped it right off. Don't forget how quickly he slapped that armbar on The Hammer. It was surreal quickness.
The game is evolving, but Fedor will always be the original badass.
