Coronavirus Breaking News, v14: Over 21,000 Healthcare Workers From Around The U.S Heading To N.Y

[Orion]

Lets keep it going boys. Best news thread online.

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Thread Index:

• U.S. coronavirus deaths surpass 10,000 (April 6, 2020)
  
• The great crawl of China: Tens of thousands of Chinese tourists are stuck at a jam-packed tourist attraction after it reopened amid coronavirus pandemic (April 6, 2020)
  
• As WHO warns 'pandemic is accelerating,' Donald Trump wants US to soon 'open for business' (April 6, 2020)
  
• Drive-through funerals are being held in the epicenter of Spain's coronavirus pandemic (April 6, 2020)
  
• UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is in intensive care (April 6, 2020)
• Boris Johnson Hospitalized For Testing After Coronavirus Diagnosis (April 5, 2020)
  
• The novel coronavirus has infected more than 1.1 million people and killed more than 60,000 worldwide, according to Johns Hopkins University. (April 4, 2020)
  
• NY gets 1,100 ventilators with help from China, Oregon (April 4, 2020)
  
• 21,000 healthcare workers from around the U.S are coming to help New York (April 2, 2020)
  
• U.S Coast Guard Tells Foreign Cruise Ships With COVID-19 Cases To Stay Away From U.S. Ports (April 1, 2020)
  
• U.S breaks 1,000 daily deaths (April 1, 2020)
• Tesla to reopen New York facility to manufacture Medtronic ventilators (March 30, 2020)
  
• Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to accept state residents off Holland America cruise ships (April 1, 2020)
  
• Gov. Ron DeSantis will issue a 30-day stay-at-home order for Florida (April 1, 2020)
  
• Australia seizes faulty coronavirus protective equipment imported from China (April 1, 2020)
  
• Coronavirus cases in Spain now exceed 100,000 with more than 9,000 total deaths (April, 2020)
  
• Taiwan is sending 10 Million masks to Europe and the U.S (March 31, 2020)
  
• Moscow orders citywide lockdown (Mar 29, 2020)
• UK scientists enrol volunteers for coronavirus vaccine trial (Mar 27, 2020)
  
• U.K: Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Health Secretary Matt Hancock, Prince Charles tested positive (Mar 27, 2020)
  
• U.S. Navy ship Mercy docks in Port of L.A. (Mar 27, 2020)
  
• Curfew-breakers in India faces Punjabi Justice (Mar 24, 2020)
  
• India announces 21-day total lockdown (Mar 24, 2020)
  
• U.K Prime Minister orders Britons to stay in their homes (Mar 23, 2020)
  
• Australia is shutting down “non-essential” services (Mar 22, 2020)
  
• President Trump gives approval for Ford, GM and Tesla to begin producing ventilators (Mar 22, 2020)
  
• New York will start implementing the trial drugs to treat Coronavirus (Mar 22, 2020)
  
• 4,800 health-care workers in Italy have been infected by coronavirus (Mar 22, 2020)
  
• Angela Merkel is in self-isolation , Senator Rand Paul tests positive, (Mar 22, 2020)
  
• Italy: Crematorium running out of space may be forced to stop accepting coffins (Mar 22, 2020)
• Bondi beach finally shuts down. Australia's Northern Territory closes its borders. (Mar 21, 2020)
  
• Ruby Princess logged 158 cases of illness before passengers disembarked without coronavirus testing (Mar 21, 2020)
  
• Australia urges Ruby Princess cruise passengers to self isolate after 4 test positive for virus (Mar 20, 2020)
  
• California governor issues statewide order to 'stay at home' (Mar 19, 2020)
• Doctors say old malaria drug Chloroquine may help treat novel coronavirus (Mar 19, 2020)
• Burger King offer free Kids Meals, Minnesota has classified grocery store workers as emergency personnel, Distilleries are making free hand sanitizer,
  
• Australia and New Zealand closing borders (Mar 18, 2020)
  
• Over 3000 retired nurses in Ontario come out of retirement (Mar 18, 2020)
• U.S. and Canada agree to close border to 'non-essential traffic' (Mar 18, 2020
  
• Human trials for a potential vaccine is underway in Seattle (Mar 18, 2020
  
• Italy says coronavirus lockdown may need to be extended (Mar 18, 2020
  
• Italy rushes 10,000 new student doctors into service (March 17, 2020)
  
• EU Finally Locks Down Borders (Mar 17, 2020)
• We are all one: all European countries and U.S states are now on the COVID-19 map (Mar 17, 2020)
  
• U.S. Military Prepares Hospital Ships for Deployment (Mar 17, 2020)
  
• Italy’s Coronavirus Victims Face Death Alone (Mar 16, 2020)
• Italian Mayor: We Can’t Cremate Bodies Fast Enough (Mar 16, 2020)
  
• WHO cautions medical staff on aerosol-generating procedures (Mar 16, 2020)
• More than 1,350 inmates escape from prisons in São Paulo (Mar 16, 2020)
• FDA giving states authority to approve own coronavirus tests (Mar 16, 2020)
• Nearly 30 trials for COVID-19 could start to yield data in the next couple of months (Mar 16, 2020)
• Spain has nationalized all of its private hospitals
  
• EU to suspend all non-essential foreign arrivals (Mar 16, 2020)
• First human trial for coronavirus vaccine begins Monday in the U.S (Mar 16, 2020)
• Spanish nurse says her country's hospitals are like 'warzones' (Mar 16, 2020)
• Canada is finally closing its borders (Mar 16, 2020)
• Thermo Fisher provides update on production of test kits (Mar 16, 2020)
• Spain may requisition private health clinics and make military hospitals available to the public health system (Mar 16, 2020)
• Quebec has ordered the closure bars, theatres, gyms, ski hills, sugar shacks, arcades, and pools (Mar 16, 2020)
  
• Philippines Senate Majority Leader Migz Zubiri tests positive (Mar 16, 2020)
• At least four cruise ships have been stranded in different parts of the world (Mar 15, 2020)
• In pictures: Italy's battle against the coronavirus (Mar 15, 2020)
• Czech Republic goes into lockdown (Mar 15, 2020)
  
• New York City will close its schools, bars, movie theaters, and restaurants (Mar 15, 2020)
  
• CA Gov. Newsom calls for all 5.3 million California seniors to self-isolate, all bars and restaurants to close (Mar 15, 2020)
  
• The CDC recommended that Americans cancel gatherings of 50 or more (Mar 15, 2020)
  
• Italian mayor of Cene, Lombardy, died from Coronavirus (Mar 15, 2020)
  
• Religious gathering at mosque in Malaysia with 16,000 people led to spike in cases (Mar 14, 2020)
  
• The Philippines' capital region goes under partial lockdown (Mar 13, 2020)
  
• U.S international airports are packed with Americans returning from Europe (Mar 13, 2020)
  
• Apple CEO Tim Cook announced all stores outside of China will be closed for two weeks (Mar 13, 2020)
  
• France will shut shops, restaurants and entertainment facilities (Mar 13, 2020)
  
• Spanish Prime Minister's wife has tested positive for coronavirus (Mar 13, 2020)
• 23 of Africa's 54 countries have COVID-19 (Mar 13, 2020)
• President Donald Trump Tests Negative for Coronavirus (Mar 13, 2020)
• Italy's Deputy Health Minister Pierpaolo Sileri tests positive for coronavirus (Mar 13, 2020)
  
• Gilets Jaunets (yellow vests) are defying France's coronavirus curfews to protest (Mar 13, 2020)
• West Virginia Is the Last State Without a Coronavirus Case (Mar 13, 2020)
  
• U.S: Thermo Fisher to produce millions of coronavirus diagnostic tests (Mar 13, 2020)
• Denmark rushes through emergency coronavirus law (Mar 13, 2020)
• Saturday afternoon recaps (Mar 13, 2020)
  
• U.S is extending the current travel ban to the U.K. and Ireland (Mar 13, 2020)
• Spain going in nationwide lockdown (Mar 13, 2020)
  
• Herd immunity: will the UK’s coronavirus strategy work? (Mar 13, 2020)
• U.K's Chief scientific adviser wants 40million Britons to catch coronavirus for herd immunity to take effect (Mar 13, 2020)
• EU Commission chief warns EU member states against travel restrictions (Mar 13, 2020)
• Understanding the science behind the Coronavirus (Mar 13, 2020)
• European countries sealing their borders (Mar 13, 2020)

 

[ineverpost]

The usual cheerleaders are starting to vanish from the boards. Perhaps people are starting to pull their heads out of their asses. It only took a mass catastrophe.

 

[Armbars]

Oh, 3M is making thousands of N95 masks here in the U.S. every day. They are all being sold to other countries who pay cash for them. I posted something about the state of Florida trying to buy these masks in this thread in an older post. 3M told Florida to wait in line since foreign countries had already put their order in first. Crazy!

* I believe Trump has now told 3M to keep the masks for use here in the U.S. ​

Fair enough

 

[JDragon]

@chardog Regarding your question here.

I don't think so. Obviously we should have expanded our testing capacities even further (though we are currently testing 500k a week), but the percentage increase is inevitable as cases and hospitalizations go up. It happens everywhere.

Of course, there are also problems here. It's starting to hit nursing homes, and when you've got it there, you obviously run into trouble with dozens of cases.

 

[Armbars]

Keep up the good work everyone.

 

[Jfrizzle]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...ions-after-heated-internal-debate/ar-BB128HxY

Trump announces new face mask recommendations after heated internal debate
By Kevin Liptak, CNN 30 mins ago
8-10 minutes
President Donald Trump said Friday his administration was now recommending Americans wear "non-medical cloth" face coverings, a reversal of previous guidance that suggested masks were unnecessary for people who weren't sick.

Trump said the recommendations, which came after a week of heated deliberations inside the White House, were voluntary and that he would not partake.

"I don't think I'm going to be doing it," he said.

After weeks of insisting Americans should not wear face masks to prevent the spread of coronavirus -- and even suggesting their use could increase the chance of infection -- administration officials this week engaged in an internal debate over reversing course, according to people familiar with the matter.

Behind the scenes, officials were divided about the wisdom of advising Americans to cover their faces in public, which some fear could cause a lapse in the social distancing efforts that remain officials' best hope of preventing further spread.

At stake was another turnabout for a White House that has sown confusion with its response to the coronavirus pandemic sweeping the nation. The debate over masks has come to encapsulate a federal effort marked by repeated reversals, conflicting recommendations, low stockpiles and competing internal interests that often lead to muddled messaging.

Senior officials at the CDC told the White House that stronger guidelines were necessary to prevent the virus from spreading between asymptomatic people, according to people familiar with the internal discussions. They were spurred by new information suggesting people without symptoms may account for a significant amount of transmission.

The CDC sent memos to the White House outlining their recommended guidance this week, people familiar with the documents said. They made clear that cloth face coverings -- not medical-grade masks -- were being recommended.

But after receiving them, some of Trump's advisers cautioned a nationwide recommendation might have negative side effects and advocated something more limited in scope, potentially only in areas that are hardest hit.

The debate played out in meetings of the coronavirus task force in the White House Situation Room, where the issue first arose again early this week. Officials engaged in a "serious discussion" of the topic, according to a source close to the conversations.

"That is being discussed really very actively. We were discussing it actively today in the task force and I can assure you, it's going to be on the agenda tomorrow," Dr. Anthony Fauci said on CNN on Thursday evening. "Given the fact that we know that asymptomatic people are clearly transmitting infection, it just makes commonsense that it's not a bad idea to do that."

Underpinning the internal back-and-forth was the persistent shortage of medical grade masks for front-line hospital workers, which states and the federal government have scrambled to resolve through patchwork shipments and appeals to the private sector. Some White House officials feared a blanket recommendation for Americans to use face coverings might cause a rush on the badly needed medical masks, aggravating the already-grave situation for hospital workers and first responders.

While the CDC guidelines advocate something short of a medical mask, there was still a fear among some officials that any kind of guidance on face coverings could lead to Americans seeking out the type of masks still needed in hospitals.

And while Trump has publicly suggested using alternatives, the White House has not issued guidelines on which fabrics are best or how to properly tie loose cloth so that it covers the mouth and nose.

Debate over recommendation
The debate spilled into public view on Thursday as Trump offered his thoughts on mask-wearing followed by words of caution from the White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx, who has been a leading internal opponent of nationwide mask recommendations on the President's task force.

"If people wanted to wear them, they can," Trump said when asked about potential new guidelines on wearing masks in public. "If people wanted to use scarves, which they have, many people have them, they can."

Birx stepped to the podium afterward to offer a more guarded view, saying she had concerns that masks could lull some people into a false sense of security, leading them to ignore other guidelines.

"We don't want people to feel like, 'Oh, I'm wearing a mask, I'm protected and I'm protecting others,' " she said. "You may be protecting others. But don't get a false sense of security that that mask is protecting you exclusively from getting infected, because there are other ways that you can get infected, because of the number of asymptomatic and mild cases that are out there."

She said a debate was "continuing" about masks, and added whenever a new advisory is issued it would be "additive" to the social distancing guidelines, which Trump this week extended to April 30.

The notion of the general public wearing masks had appeared a settled matter as recently as last weekend after the administration spent days earlier in the crisis insisting they were unnecessary for most Americans.

The CDC said on its website as of last month that it "does not recommend that people who are well wear a face mask to protect themselves from respiratory diseases, including Covid-19."

And officials were vocal that Americans not go out to purchase masks.

"It is not necessary for Americans to go out and buy masks," Vice President Mike Pence said during an appearance on CNN on March 1. In late February, the US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams tweeted: "Seriously people -- STOP BUYING MASKS! They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if health care providers can't get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!"

Officials said those entreaties reflected a concern inside the administration that average Americans would begin stockpiling surgical masks or N95 respirators, making it difficult for hospital workers to access necessary gear.

Other opinions
In other instances, some administration officials went as far as suggesting wearing a mask could increase the risk of infection for the wearer.

"You can increase your risk of getting it (coronavirus) by wearing a mask if you are not a health care provider," Adams said during an interview on Fox & Friends on March 2. "Folks who don't know how to wear them properly tend to touch their faces a lot and actually can increase the spread of coronavirus."

Those concerns about hoarding masks haven't necessarily changed, officials said, and the risks of infection to wearers remain. What has changed is new information suggesting higher levels of asymptomatic spread, which CDC Director Robert Redfield said this week had led to the new look into mask-wearing recommendations.

The previous guidance, Redfield said, was "being critically re-reviewed, to see if there's potential additional value for individuals that are infected or individuals that may be asymptomatically infected."

The White House was also moved to reexamine the mask issue after the American Enterprise Institute published a white paper last weekend offering a "road map to reopening" the country after the outbreak, including a recommendation on masks.

"People will initially be asked to wear fabric nonmedical face masks while in the community to reduce their risk of asymptomatic spread," stated the paper, which was co-authored by Dr. Scott Gottlieb, Trump's former Food and Drug Administration commissioner who has continued to informally advise the White House during the coronavirus outbreak.

Among the issues discussed by the task force this week have been how best to teach Americans to wear masks and how to calibrate the public messaging to prevent a rush on medical-grade equipment.

There has been some consideration of whether to call the recommended face coverings "masks." Some have suggested referring to them simply as "face coverings" or "courtesy masks" to distinguish them from the medical masks needed by professionals.

And officials have weighed of the cultural shift that recommending masks would represent, since Americans (unlike citizens of some Asian countries) are not accustomed to wearing masks in public.

So far, officials haven't said whether Trump or his advisers would don face coverings in public as an example. Months into the crisis, Trump still regularly appears within six feet of his aides, despite White House guidelines on distancing.

Just like in Canada. Theybreally do think the populace is too stupid to take care of themselves. Good on the administration for doing the right thing in this case.

 

[andnowweknow]

LOL...

when asked whether he had a part in the predictive model that suggested 100 to 240k people might die from this...

"I wasnt directly involved in developing the model...we'll not this kind of model"

This fuckin guy lol.

 

[JDragon]

US accused of 'modern piracy' after diversion of masks meant for Europe

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[b34stmode]

US accused of 'modern piracy' after diversion of masks meant for Europe

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If you live in a Country that isn't actively trying to keep home made equipment such as mask that will save lives for their own people I'm not sure why you are living there.

 

[JDragon]

If you live in a Country that isn't actively trying to keep home made equipment such as mask that will save lives for their own people I'm not sure why you are living there.

I've read this sentence 4 times, but I still don't understand what that sentence means or is intended to mean.

 

[computer fogie]

If you live in a Country that isn't actively trying to keep home made equipment such as mask that will save lives for their own people I'm not sure why you are living there.

I don't understand what you're saying here. You seem to be saying the masks were made in Germany, and the Germans weren't actively trying to keep them for Germans?

To be honest with you, you've been confused about this whole virus thing all along.

 

[LuchaBear]

 

[Misfit23]

If you live in a Country that isn't actively trying to keep home made equipment such as mask that will save lives for their own people I'm not sure why you are living there.

Ah yes... who could forget the 51st state... thailand.

 

[Jfrizzle]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/the-latest-numbers-on-covid-19-in-canada/ar-BB1277zM

The latest numbers on COVID-19 in Canada

The latest numbers of confirmed and presumptive COVID-19 cases in Canada as of 4:27 p.m. on April 3, 2020:

© THE CANADIAN PRESS/Adrian Wyld Chief Public Health Officer Theresa Tam gestures as she talks about the pandemic curve during a news conference in Ottawa, Friday April 3, 2020.
There are 12,387 confirmed and presumptive cases in Canada.

— Quebec: 6,101 confirmed (including 61 deaths, 306 resolved)


— Ontario: 3,255 confirmed (including 67 deaths, 1,023 resolved)

— British Columbia: 1,121 confirmed (including 31 deaths, 641 resolved)

— Alberta: 968 confirmed (including 13 deaths, 174 resolved)

— Saskatchewan: 220 confirmed (including 3 deaths, 36 resolved)

— Nova Scotia: 207 confirmed (including 21 resolved)

— Newfoundland and Labrador: 195 confirmed (including 1 death, 11 resolved)

— Manitoba: 164 confirmed (including 2 deaths, 11 resolved), 18 presumptive

— New Brunswick: 95 confirmed (including 22 resolved)

— Prince Edward Island: 22 confirmed (including 4 resolved)

— Repatriated Canadians: 13 confirmed

— Yukon: 6 confirmed

— Northwest Territories: 2 confirmed

— Nunavut: No confirmed cases

_ Total: 12,387 (18 presumptive, 12,369 confirmed including 178 deaths, 2,249 resolved)

This report by The Canadian Press was first published April 3, 2020.

Nunavit still having none of it!

 

[b34stmode]

I don't understand what you're saying here. You seem to be saying the masks were made in Germany, and the Germans weren't actively trying to keep them for Germans?

To be honest with you, you've been confused about this whole virus thing all along.

It's an article about the US diverting a shipment meant for Germany to keep it for US citizens. My point was I would think Germany would be doing the exact same thing if they could.

 

[Cole train]

Stay home and die order in spain for older people

Dont know how legit though

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...re-for-the-very-old-and-very-sick/ar-BB128SgQ

 

[b34stmode]

over 1300 deads in US today alone and we are still 2-3 weeks out from the Apex.. Holy fuck man.

 

[b34stmode]

I don't understand what you're saying here. You seem to be saying the masks were made in Germany, and the Germans weren't actively trying to keep them for Germans?

To be honest with you, you've been confused about this whole virus thing all along.

Who hasn't been confused about the virus "thing" all along? What are you even trying to say by that? A mod referring to thousands of people dying every single day as "A virus thing" Is shameful.

 

[genecop]

https://allnurses.com/what-like-hospital-right-now-t717045/?page=10

 

[Queen B]

https://nypost.com/2020/04/03/nyc-sees-largest-24-hour-jump-yet-in-coronavirus-cases-deaths/

A staggering 6,582 additional people tested positive for the deadly bug since Thursday evening, bringing the city’s total confirmed cases to 56,289. Another 305 New Yorkers died from the virus, pushing the death toll up to 1,867.[/img]