Go try talking to a girl or something. There’s a big world out there, really. Sitting at a computer defending Conor 14 hours a day is really not a healthy way to live.
Go try talking to a girl or something. There’s a big world out there, really. Sitting at a computer defending Conor 14 hours a day is really not a healthy way to live.
The real question is:
Why does Connor need a belt at this point?
He is a star, he got enormous quantity of money and he get any superfight he want...
Then why we spoke about belts yet?
Let the LWs goes on...
As I said..."Connor will be stripped (tonight or later, he will...)"
5 vs 6 is meaningless. It has no impact on anything.
Whoever wins this fight will either fight Conor next, in which case it’s meaningless whether Conor was stripped or not and they’ll make a lot of money, or they’ll fight someone else, as the undisputed champ. So for this fight, and the future, the distinction is indeed relatively meaningless.
Conor has no easier a path to Aldo than all of Aldo’s other challengers. Actually harder given he had to get through chad. I don’t understand why you guys hang on this fallacy.
But he didn't have to go through Chad, Chad was a replacement and Conor already "earned" Aldo.
Bit of history on the streaks at the time
Cub
After Cub got submitted by Lamas, he turned it around by stopping George Roop (who would have been unofficially just outside the top 15).
Ross Pearson had a successful debut at featherweight after going 4-2 at lightweight and was stopped in-round first time in his career by Swanson. (Unofficially fringed top15 in both classes) KOTN
Knocked out 16-2 Oliveira on a 2 fight run at featherweight, popular after showing inventive grappling, submissions in all 4 of his UFC victories. (Unofficially fringed top10 at the time) KOTN
Beat #7 ranked Dustin Poirier who filled in when Siver dropped out.
Knocked out #6 ranked Siver who had just dropped his 7-2 lightweight run for back to back featherweight victories. FOTN
Had to step back and fight #11 Stephens on his 3 fight winning streak. FOTN
Late 2014, Cub is then ranked #2 for his streak of wins and KO's over 6 opponents, 3 of which were ranked, arguably would have been 4 or 5 if top15 rankings existed. Since beating them, Oliveira has become #13, Dustin #6, Siver #8, and Stephens #10. Cub still has to beat #3 ranked Frankie Edgar in order to secure a title shot, even though he'd been promised one for beating Stephens already.
Conor
Debuted against, and stopped, TUF quarter finalist Brimage who had secured his first 3 fights in the octagon at featherweight. KOTN
Beat 7-2 Holloway, who replaced an injured Ogle, following Max's robberydecision loss against Bermudez (though to be fair, Holloway had just won an arguable robbery over Garcia).
Beat TUF winner Brandao, who replaced an injured Cole Miler, who was 4-2 at featherweight, coming off a Poirier knockout. POTN
Stopped #5 ranked Dustin Poirier on a 3 fight win streak which helped secure Conor into the top5. POTN
Stopped a #10 ranked Siver. POTN
Less than 2 weeks later, #4 ranked Conor's shot at Aldo was announced.
Now obviously, Cub had already lost by now, so he was out of it, but despite getting to #2 after all his ranked victories, he still had to fight #3 to get a title shot. At this point, Holloway had since reached #13, but was unranked at the time of his loss to McGregor, meaning the only two ranked fighters Conor beat, Cub had beat as well. Conor was getting fed fighters the leading streak had already conquered, while Cub had to keep fighting until he was out of the picture.
Of course, there's zero argument that Conor failed to impress or that he was turning heads. Intrigue between him and Aldo was already high when Conor made out a list calling out all the ranked fighters in his division, then skyrocketed after he jumped the cage and screamed in his face. And yeah, he did have a good streak at the weight and beat some good ranked guys, but you can't say he wasn't favored.
If I was his coach, and I already knew that with his precision, counters, and power that he was one of the better strikers to get into the UFC, I'd want him to:
-Demonstrate that against an unproven radical, but sloppy striker like Brimage.
-Then the 1-1 Ogle who was a decision-striker - no real threat. In Holloway: a young kid with no knockout power off a loss replacing him on a month's notice? No problem
-Then Cole Miller, at least a name, dangerous submission guy with zero positional grappling or takedowns and not much strength - no real threat. In Brandao: an uncorked, wild striker off a loss on a month's notice? No problem
-Dustin? Best case scenario for me. The division was full of strong grapplers with a pressure/wrestling base like Edgar, Mendes, Lamas, Guida, Lentz, Bermudez, Elkins, and you might even include the usually unstoppable Kawajiri. Poirier had a very threatening top game, complete with submissions and ground and pound. He was a very well regarded top 5.
>>Sure, on the surface it looks like a real test. Trouble is, he has very little in takedowns, and his top game was set up more by his boxing, which he's not gonna beat Conor on. And his ranking was purely based on his losses to other ranked guys. He was killing every unranked guy that came his way but never got a ranked victory himself.
>>This sounds like reverse justifications, but this isn't shit in retrospect, I'd been saying that since the fight was announced. In my mind, Conor was fighting to get into the rankings and would have been better served in a striking match against Stephens, while the 7 win-streak Bermudez already had those #10-15 ranked wins and should have been fighting for top 5 against someone like Dustin.
-After that, I only need one top 10 win for my fighter to get a title? Yes, I'll take Siver, the kickboxer with 1 win in his last 3 fights - no real threat. On paper, this looks like a great resume. In video, it looks even better cuz Conor is a damn murderer in these fights. People just find it curious that this specialist who had questions surrounding one area of his fight game coincidentally avoided a pretty heavy game of minesweeper in his wrestler heavy division. He did end up shutting those people down by getting a last minute replacement in Chad, whose performance is still boggling to people, but Conor was fast-tracked and protected pretty much up to that point, and the title shot was already in his hands.
A) The vast majority of fighters don't become champions with a large number of defenses, so that's a dumb qualification. B) You're speaking on behalf of a bunch of fighters when you don't know, so that's a dumb post. C) Of course we don't know if this counts as a defense, that's... the fucking... point.
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