China Has Already Passed the USA as the World's Top Economy

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Interesting piece.

Essentially, the theory of the piece is that due to current market exchange rates, China's GDP gets grossly undercounted when looked at nominally. However, when adjusted for Purchase Power Parity, it becomes apparent that China is now the number 1 world economy.

They have greater manufacturing output than the USA. China exports more as well.

http://www.inforum.com/news/4345482-commentary-who-has-worlds-no-1-economy-not-us

Article in spoilers
But there's good reason to think that China will overcome at least some of these obstacles. Economists Randall Morck and Bernard Yeung have a new paper comparing the histories of Japan and South Korea -- both of which climbed out of poverty to achieve rich-country status -- with the recent rise of China. They find that China's institutions are, broadly speaking, developing along the same path followed by its successful neighbors.

In other words, not only is China already the world's largest economy, the gap between it and the U.S. can be expected to grow even wider. This continues to be borne out in the growth statistics -- though China has slowed in recent years, its economy continues to expand at a rate of more than 6 percent, while the U.S. is at just over 2 percent. If that disparity persists, China's economy will be double that of the U.S. in less than two decades.

So economically, China has surpassed the U.S., and is on track to zoom far ahead in the near future. But what about military power? Here, it still looks like the U.S. reigns supreme. It spends more money on its military than China, has a larger nuclear arsenal, and -- thanks to its recent wars in Afghanistan and Iraq -- has a more seasoned fighting force as well.

But that doesn't mean that the U.S. would win a war, if the two countries fought. A full nuclear exchange, of course, would have no winners. But in a protracted conventional struggle, there's a good chance that China's weight of numbers and manufacturing prowess would win out. As an analogy, consider the U.S. and Japan in World War II. At the beginning of the war, Japan's aircraft carrier force outnumbered that of the U.S., and its navy was far more seasoned (due to Japan's war in China). But when the war began, the U.S. greatly outproduced its opponent.

The U.S. also had a 2-to-1 manpower advantage. When two countries of similar technology levels fight, numbers tend to tell. China has a larger GDP, more manufacturing output and four times the population. And as its recent advances in stealth technology, directed energy weapons, hypersonic missiles and other areas demonstrate, its military technology isn't that far behind the U.S. In a drawn-out war, once the mighty Chinese steamroller got moving, it would be unstoppable.

In other words, China is now in a position similar to that of the U.S. at about the turn of the 20th century -- a formidable superpower that just hasn't yet felt any reason to exercise its dominance. Once the U.S. woke up to the need to throw its weight around, no one doubted its primacy.

China may never make the same decision. It may choose to remain restrained on the international stage, with a modest nuclear arsenal and a light footprint in global institutions. If so, its dominance will remain a lurking, looming potentiality instead of a real and present fact of life.

But I wouldn't count on that happening.

DaGawd's commentary:

Honestly, the article gets pretty ridiculous at time. It's a classic WaPo article meant to enrage nationalists who still firmly hold on to the concept of American Exceptionalism.

Further, there are some issues with judging GDP by Purchase Power Parity. Transportation costs usually are born by the retailer of a good, so inherently the end price borne by a consumer of a Chinese good is going to be more than the price borne by the consumer living in the country in which the good was made or a nearby market.

PPP also doesn't factor in how demand affects pricing. The WaPo article mentions a Big Mac costing 1.8 times more in the USA than in China, but makes no mention of the differing demand affecting pricing in each market.

What say you, Sherdoggers? Should you start teaching your kids Mandarin now so they have a hope of holding a job in the future?
 
in PPP i think China has been ahead for years
 
I actually would like my son to learn Mandarin.........The Chinese household saves over 30% of their income. It doesn't take an economist to know that over time they will see economic growth.
 
America owns most of the world and continues to have its currency as the standard for oil transactions, so there is no way that China is the economic #1. Sorry.
 
America's economy functions on services the public and private render throughout the world. There is no country that even comes close to the services the U.S. provides. It is a top tier economy that doesn't need to export resources and doesn't need to manufacture - that is second world and third world shit right there.
 
America owns most of the world and continues to have its currency as the standard for oil transactions, so there is no way that China is the economic #1. Sorry.
china is already in talks with SA to replace the dollar for oil trade
 
What say you, Sherdoggers? Should you start teaching your kids Mandarin now so they have a hope of holding a job in the future?

No, any Chinese worth a damn talking to should at least have a conversational level of English.
 
lol at learning Mandarin. Dummies in the '80's thought learning Japanese was going to be important too.
 
china is already in talks with SA to replace the dollar for oil trade

That won't happen. SA is Americas bitch. If it were to happen, Iran would be our new best buddy in the region and that is not in the interests of SA.
 
china is already in talks with SA to replace the dollar for oil trade

The Chinese Yuan is barely more traded than the Mexican Peso, just let that sink in before thinking that China is going to replace the USA anytime soon.
 
lol at learning Mandarin. Dummies in the '80's thought learning Japanese was going to be important too.

I always wanted to learn Japanese to play the pirated nintendo games that were all in Japanese.
 
The other day, this was about all you got on TV in China
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It got a 99.9% approval rating from the peoples.

All the kids got to read about it and watch too:
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They also have almost 5x the population, so I would hope so.
 
Their porn industry is almost non-existant. So there is that.
 
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