Chad and Stacy going mainstream

[Phlog]

Bro, we are talking about right now, not over time when survival of the fittest determined who got to mate. I don't know a single virgin, not one, much less 60% of men.

If you read my initial statement you'll find I did not suggest opposite to your suggestion, but I certainly weighted it.

Essentially there is a trend throughout human history for more men than women, sometimes many more, to find it hard or impossible to get laid.

 

[MusterX]

Ya gotta remember the figures come from throughout human history, with the recent sexual liberation in the west the figures get better for the men. Also remember the figures are not about just getting laid, but those who reproduce.

If we're talking laid, I would suggest that your number is closer to truth, but being laid once ain't the same as hundreds and that kind of disparity existed before tinder and the like skewed it further in favour of the best few. Also a satisfying relationship is even harder to come by and to many people that is the goal.

Then porn is causing men to value themselves higher, ie the women they see everyday in their porn are way beyond their means to attract, many just don't want to settle for what they can get.

Getting laid once can be worse than not getting laid at all because it places a banquet on the table then leaves the person hungry from years to come.

As far as porn, I think its bad for a young man, mostly because it gives an unrealistic view of sex and women. You might meet a slut from time to time that will do what a pornstar will do but from my experience that isn't the case most of the time.

 

[D Train]

You realise there is something called hypergamy and women who are 5 or 6 don't want men who are 5 or 6 they want 8 and 10. This is further made worse by social media where every thirsty dude is telling land whales how "thick and hot" they are in order to get sex and how attractive dudes will shower an average sometime and even ugly girl with affection in order to get easy sex from her.

That’s dumb. We all know ugly dudes who are happily married and successfully procreating.

 

[elfeliz]

a lot of you guys here are just weirdos

 

[Aegon Spengler]

The research has already been done. You just seem to disagree with the data because you don't like the conclusion that comes from it. The false belief you have can be addressed with the following response:

1. Most men actually are naturally better looking than the female. However, men these days have low self esteem and tend to underate their look. In fact, if we look at nature the males tend to often be the more naturally vibrant colours (see peacocks for example) than the female; this applies to humans as well if we remove the makeup and compare male/female faces. Another thing is men tend to not be seen as sexualised in our society culture. So of course women will appear more physically attractive as everything is hypersexualised towards them.

2. Outliers do not dispute a rule. An below average in looks guy getting no attach sex from a (non-drunk) hot girl does not dispute the fact that 9/10 that hot girl would never sleep with an ugly man. Sure a below average male can get into a relationship with a hot girl but often this not her falling in love with his personality or his "game". Rather there is often an exchange of resources/services the man must do for her in exchange for her to associate with him. Anthropology studies on female behavior actual state in one of its rule that a woman will not associate with a man if no gain can be obtain from said association.

3. The problem you seem to not realise is that women often will settle on not being physical attracted to a man if he can provide resources/stablity for her. This is suggested by the amount of divorces initiated by women compared to men, how easily it is for women to detach from men and fall out of love and how many women will leave their husband if he is unemployed for long period of time or unable to work.

4. You obviously aren't friends with fuckboys because if you were you'd realise just how girls that have BF secretly cheat on them behind their back with guys they actual are physical attracted towwards.

A perfect example of this, comes from my real life. A friend of mines is a rich business owner in Miami. When he was younger he was dating a girl in he rearly 20's but then broke up with her to concentrate on his business. She then got married to another guy who would later become her husband. While she was dating her future husband, she wasa still getting the pipe from her ex-bf even and the way the story is presented it is possible that her first child might not even be her husband. Fast foward 10 years into future she now has 3 kids and still married to the same guy. Yet, she is messaging her ex on social media to find out how things are going with him and suggest they meet up.

Were you at some point abused by a woman?

Yes there are plenty of stories of women cheating. But none of what you have said here is reflected in most people's day to day realities. I can't believe you've spent much time in the real world if you genuinely get wrapped up in this kind of shit.

 

[Eisenhans]

Were you at some point abused by a woman?

That would imply he had or has contact to women. I doubt that, somehow.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

That would imply he had or has contact to women. I doubt that, somehow.

I spoke to an incel in real life once. He was a comedian, we were both acts at an open mic night. Turned out he had been abused by his mother. I didn’t judge him during our conversation (well, the second half)... just listened.

Based on that I have a theory that a large number of incels were abused by a mother, an aunt or someone else.

 

[Goldman23]

That’s dumb. We all know ugly dudes who are happily married and successfully procreating.

And there wives are secretly getting dicked on the side while spenidng down their money. Attraction =/=provider.

 

[D Train]

And there wives are secretly getting dicked on the side while spenidng down their money. Attraction =/=provider.

I think you just a have a low opinion of women.

 

[Mike]

While incels are sad and pathetic, it's a bit of a misconception that anyone can take a shower and buy some nice clothes and just pick up chicks. You guys are coming at this from the perspective of normal people.

Incels aren't normal. A lot of then have crippling self esteem problems and other mental health issues. Also as others have said, our culture has changed rapidly in a short period of time. Just having a job, a car, and a place isn't enough anymore. You need charisma, looks, or wealth.Women are financially independent now, so less of them are settling for any random schlub. And with social media, they don't have to. The idea that incels are a bunch of guys too entitled to fuck a 6 is crazy. I bet most of them would wife up any girl that even acknowledged them. And people mention tinder like that should help somehow. If you're too awkward to talk to girls and lack charisma, an app isn't going to change much. You think the same guys that out compete them in real life social situations aren't on tinder?

Just like men, women wont take the worst option unless they're forced to. Most girls would rather match with good looking guys on tinder and use pussy power to try to get a relationship, than date some boring ugly dude with zero charisma

 

[Eisenhans]

Incels aren't normal. A lot of then have crippling self esteem problems and other mental health issues. Also as others have said, our culture has changed rapidly in a short period of time. Just having a job, a car, and a place isn't enough anymore. You need charisma, looks, or wealth.Women are financially independent now, so less of them are settling for any random schlub. And with social media, they don't have to. The idea that incels are a bunch of guys too entitled to fuck a 6 is crazy. I bet most of them would wife up any girl that even acknowledged them. And people mention tinder like that should help somehow. If you're too awkward to talk to girls and lack charisma, an app isn't going to change much. You think the same guys that out compete them in real life social situations aren't on tinder?

Just like men, women wont take the worst option unless they're forced to. Most girls would rather match with good looking guys on tinder and use pussy power to try to get a relationship, than date some boring ugly dude with zero charisma

I can say from experience that this is all wrong. You just need the balls to talk to women. Look, I'm old, ugly, poor and really, not a good catch. I still don't have any more trouble picking up chicks than when I was young, skinny and pretty.