International Catalonia's Rebellion: 170,000 Spaniards in Madrid March Against Amnesty Plan for Catalan Secessionists

German prosecutors seek extradition of Catalonia's Carles Puigdemont
Prosecutors have asked a regional court in northern Germany to permit the extradition of the former Catalan leader to Spain. Puigdemont has been detained in Germany since March 25.

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Demonstrators hold placards showing Puigdemont, near the prison he is being held at in Neumuenster, Germany

The public prosecutor for Germany's northern state of Schleswig-Holstein announced on Tuesday that it had requested the extradition of former Catalan President Carles Puigdemont.

Puigdemont is being charged in Spain with rebellion and misuse of public funds, for his involvement in the Catalan independence referendum of October 2017. The former leader was living in self-imposed exile in Belgium and was in Finland on March 24, when Spain reactivated the European arrest warrant against him. Puigdemont was arrested when he entered Germany on March 25, as he was making his way back to Belgium.

Puigdemont's case has now gone to Schleswig-Holstein's highest court, where a so-called senate of three judges will decide whether the request for extradition has the necessary substance and whether Puigdemont should continue to be held.

"At the moment, it is too early to say when a decision by the Senate for Criminal Matters on the application for the extradition arrest warrant may be expected," the court said in a statement.

In an interview with Catalan radio, Puigdemont's lawyer Jaume Alonso-Cuevillas spoke of "infringements of basic rights that we will prove have been committed by the Spanish state" and called his client "a political prisoner."

The German government said on March 30 that it would not interfere or veto any court decision on Puigdemont's fate, as the act would be considered a "legal affront" by the federal government against the judicial system.
Does rebellion amount to high treason in Germany?

Whether or not Puigdemont will be extradited hinges upon whether the crimes he's accused of in Spain are also illegal in Germany. In a press statement, the prosecutor's office said that the Spanish crime of rebelion was the equivalent of the German offense of high treason, even though the two laws in question were worded differently.

Prosecutors also argued that it was reasonable for Puigdemont to be brought up on charges of misuse of public funds since the Catalonia independence referendum cost more than a million and a half euros.

The prosecutors said that Puigdemont should continue to be kept in custody because he represents a flight risk.

But one of Puigdemont's German lawyers disputed the idea that Puigdemont had done anything potentially punishable under German law, arguing that high treason must involve the threat of violence.

"The hurdle is extremely high in that the perpetrator must exercise violence or threaten with violence," attorney Wolfgang Schomburg told DW-TV. "There is not the slightest proof (of that)."

Schomburg added that convicted individuals of crimes based on their political beliefs was strictly forbidden by German law.
Support from Germany's Left Party

After Puigdemont's arrests, supports of the Catalonian leader took to the streets in various cities in Spain and Germany to demand his release. Members of Germany's Left Party have also visited Puigdemont in the prison where he is being held in the northern German city of Neumünster.

"The Spanish judicial system has obviously cobbled together a politically motivated charge in accusing Puigdemont of misusing state funds for carrying out the referendum," said the Left Party's Sevim Dagdelen in a statement. "The Catalonia conflict should be solved politically instead of further criminalizing those involved in it."

The other German parties have said that Puigdemont's extradition is a matter for German courts. According to the guidelines of European law, Puigdemont's case should be decided within 60 days of his arrest, although no date has been set for the higher court in Schleswig-Holstein to render its decision. Puigdemont has the option of filing a challenge to Germany's Federal Constitutional Court, should the decision go against him. Puigdemont's legal team has already filed an appeal in Spain against attempts to prosecute him there.

http://www.dw.com/en/german-prosecutors-seek-extradition-of-catalonias-carles-puigdemont/a-43231338
 
Spain's new government lifts budget controls on Catalonia
Robert Hetz, Isla Binnie | June 8, 2018

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MADRID (Reuters) - Spain’s new Socialist government said on Friday it had lifted financial controls on Catalonia and would seek dialogue with the region’s administration to relieve tensions over an independence bid which pitched the country into political crisis.

Catalonia’s secessionist drive is one of the thorniest issues facing Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez after he toppled center-right premier Mariano Rajoy last week in a vote of no- confidence.

The financial controls, imposed by Rajoy ahead of last October’s independence referendum, meant that payments made by the Catalan government had to be scrutinized by the budget ministry in Madrid, which could exercise a veto.

“We want to restore normality, so with the constitution in one hand and dialogue in the other, we will try to make progress,” Isabel Celaa, the newly installed government spokeswoman, said after the new cabinet’s first meeting.

Sanchez will probably meet Catalan regional chief Quim Torra before the summer, she added, without elaborating.

The apparent olive branch to the regional government marks a change in tone from Rajoy’s hard line against the secessionists, which culminated in the imposition of direct rule, but it is not clear what Sanchez can offer Torra.

Heavily-indebted Catalonia will still have to provide information to the budget ministry to keep access to state funds it has relied on since being shut out of debt capital markets during an economic crisis that began to bite 10 years ago.

Torra has pledged to continue the independence campaign for which Spanish judges want to try his predecessor, Carles Puigdemont, who is currently awaiting the outcome of an extradition request in Germany.

Spain’s constitution states that the country is indivisible and Rajoy had argued that the October referendum was illegal.

The Socialists backed Rajoy’s imposition of direct rule on Catalonia and the nomination of a staunchly unionist Catalan politician as Spanish foreign minister has been seen as suggesting they do not plan to cut deals.

While drumming up support for the no-confidence motion that felled Rajoy, Sanchez had promised talks on the issue but remains opposed to Catalan independence.

Another referendum remains “absolutely out of the question”, Celaa said on Friday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ts-budget-controls-on-catalonia-idUSKCN1J42I4
 
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New Spanish PM Pedro Sánchez signals softer approach to Catalonia
Jailed officials should be ‘close to their families,’ new premier says.
By Saim Saeed | 6/24/18

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New Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez signaled Sunday his government would take a less confrontational stance toward Catalan separatists, while remaining opposed to independence for the region.

In an interview with El País published Sunday, Sánchez said he supported moving imprisoned former Catalan government officials to Catalonia. He also said he will reopen a bilateral commission to resolve governance disputes between the central government and Catalonia.

“The times in which the government aggravated the problems with Catalonia has ended,” Sánchez told the newspaper

Sánchez, the Socialist leader, became prime minister earlier this month after his predecessor Mariano Rajoy lost a no-confidence vote over corruption allegations within his conservative Popular Party. Rajoy took a hard line against Catalan separatists, refusing offers to meet their leaders as a crisis over the region’s status escalated.

Sánchez said both sides need to rebuild trust after last year, when the pro-independence Catalan regional government held an illegal independence referendum, which Madrid used harsh tactics to suppress.

Sánchez said he supported moving former Catalan government officials including ex-Vice President Oriol Junqueras to Catalonia from their current prison in Madrid. “The reasonable thing is that the prisoners … are close to their families and their lawyers. It is not a matter of tactics,” Sánchez said.

The prime minister also said the moribund bilateral commission between Madrid and the Catalan government could be revived to solve a range of disputes, although it could not be used to further moves toward independence.

“There are some [issues] that are by far unconstitutional, such as those linked to [independence]. But there are others that have to do with energy poverty and other social issues that can be perfectly addressed,” Sánchez said.

https://www.politico.eu/article/pedro-sanchez-spain-catalonia-signals-softer-approach-to-catalonia/
 
Catalonia to ask Spanish PM to agree to another independence referendum
The Spanish prime minister and the Catalan president will meet in Madrid on July 9.
By Gabriela Galindo | 6/28/18

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People demonstrate in support of Catalan pro-independence politicians in Barcelona on April 15, 2018

Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez said the debate about the future of Catalonia will likely outlast his administration and will require “a lot of dedication, generosity and time.”

In a joint interview with the Guardian, Le Monde and the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, the prime minister reiterated previous comments that his immediate focus was on reducing tension following last year’s illegal independence referendum held by the pro-independence Catalan regional government, which Madrid used harsh tactics to suppress.

Catalan President Quim Torra told reporters in Washington on Wednesday his “first request” to Sánchez will be for the prime minister to agree an independence referendum for the autonomous region. The leaders will meet in Madrid on July 9.

“At last someone sits at our table,” Torra said, adding that Catalonia’s “right to self-determination” would be the dominant theme of their discussions. “If we don’t want to tackle the issue, these meetings don’t make much sense.”

The Catalan president’s five-day visit to Washington is part of his efforts to promote Catalonia’s independence cause internationally.

But Sánchez has repeatedly said that self-determination is not the way froward for Catalonia as it would only divide the region further.

“There’s one bloc — which isn’t a majority — that backs pro-independence parties,” Sánchez said, according to the Guardian. “I think that what the majority of Catalan society wants is a relationship between its distinct region and the rest of the country.”

The prime minister said Catalan leaders should respect the country’s unity and its laws but indicated he was open to revising the powers of Spain’s central and regional governments “once temperatures had cooled [down].”

https://www.politico.eu/article/cat...-to-agree-to-another-independence-referendum/
 
Ex-Catalan leader returns to Belgium from Germany after failed extradition
Carles Puigdemont is in Belgium to drum up support for Catalonia's separatist movement
The Associated Press · Posted: Jul 28, 2018

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Former Catalan leader Carles Puigdemont, right, and current regional president of Catalonia Quim Torra, attend a press conference after a meeting with government ministers and ministers in exile at Catalonia government office in Brussels Saturday.

Former Catalan leader Carles Puigdemont returned to Belgium Saturday to drum up support for Catalonia's separatist movement after Spain's bid to extradite him on rebellion charges from Germany failed.

On arriving to Brussels, Puigdemont shook hands with other former members of his Cabinet who also fled Spain, as well as the current regional president of Catalonia, Quim Torra, who had traveled from Spain to meet his predecessor.

Puigdemont said he will continue to travel around Europe in an attempt to explain the separatist position in wealthy Catalonia, which has so far failed to garner any support from European governments or major political parties.

"I have to continue doing my duty of fighting for fundamental rights denied by Spain," Puigdemont said, while adding he has yet to plan his next move.

A failed extradition

Puigdemont fled Spain in October following an illegal and ineffective declaration of independence by secessionist lawmakers in northeastern Catalonia.

He had been in Germany since March when he was arrested on a Spanish warrant while traveling by car from Finland back to Belgium.

But a Spanish judge withdrew the international warrant for Puigdemont and five other fugitive separatists after a German court refused to extradite him for rebellion.

Puigdemont can be arrested, however, if he returns to Spain.

He will now return to a residence he established in a house in the Belgian town of Waterloo.

Spain's new government

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Spain's new prime minister, Pedro Sanchez

Spain has undergone a change in government since the Catalan political crisis exploded last year after conservative leader Mariano Rajoy lost a vote of confidence in June.

Since then, Socialist Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez has met with Torra in an attempt to relax tensions between Madrid and Barcelona.

"We are all waiting to hear Pedro Sanchez's answer to what he has recognized as a political problem," Puigdemont said. "What is his response to the demand of self-determination of Catalonia?"

Puigdemont and Torra used the joint press conference at a Catalan government office in Brussels to demand the release from preventative jail of nine separatist leaders who are awaiting trial for rebellion and other charges in Spain.

A country divided

Polls and recent elections show that the 7.5 million residents of Catalonia are evenly divided over the question of breaking century-old ties with the rest of Spain.

Spain's Constitution says the nation is indivisible and that its sovereignty resides in its national parliament, not in their regional legislatures.

Catalan separatists hold seats in the Madrid parliament but have failed to make a serious bid to build the support needed to reform the Constitution.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/catal...aratist-movement-failed-extradition-1.4765611
 
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Best thing to happen for independence has been the actions of Spanish state the last few days. We will have a independent Catalonia, Basque Country and a united Ireland in our lifetime. Then we get out our shovels and make sure Maggie and Franco are turning in their graves
Hopefully these states have strict borders doo'nt want any of Kalergi's shock troops creating enclaves
 
Nine independence leaders have been sentenced to long prison sentences (9-13 years) today.

Catalans taking to the streets:

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Nine independence leaders have been sentenced to long prison sentences (9-13 years) today.

Catalans taking to the streets:

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Came here to literally say the same thing.

'An outrage': Catalonia and the world reacts as separatist leaders handed jail terms
14 October 2019
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Protests were immediately staged across Catalonia as Spain's Supreme Court sentenced nine Catalan leaders to prison terms of between nine and 13 years for sedition for their role in a failed independence bid in 2017.
The long-awaited verdicts were less than those demanded by the prosecutionwhich had sought up to 25 years behind bars for former Catalan Vice President Oriol Junqueras on grounds of rebellion.

Spain has been bracing for weeks for the court's ruling, with tensionmounting steadily and police sending reinforcements to Catalonia where separatists have pledged a mass response of civil disobedience.

Former Catalan regional Carles Puigdemont, who fled Spain after a warrant was issued for his arrest and is currently living in exile in Belgium, called the sentences an "outrage."

"100 years in all. An outrage. Now more than ever, by your side and thoseof your families. It is time to react as never before," tweeted Puigdemont, who fled to Belgium to avoid prosecution.

Former Catalan vice president Oriol Junqueras, who was sentenced to 13 years in jail for his role in Catalonia's failed independence push, warned Monday that the separatist movement will "come back even stronger."

"To those who are only driven by the will to do harm, we say to them thatnothing ends today, you neither win nor convince...we will come back even stronger. We will come back and win," he wrote in a letter to his supporters from prison published by his ERC party.

The current speaker in the Catalan regional government, Roger Torrent, also posted a message on social media. “Today we have all been convicted, not just 12 people."

In a communique Barcelona en Comú, the group led by Barcelona’s mayor, Ada Colau, expressed its indigation at what it called the “unjust sentences” and called for a united response on the part of Catalan political and citizens’ organisations.

Even Barça footall club were quick to condemn the sentence.

“In the same way that the preventive prison sentence didn’t help to resolve the conflict, neither will the prison sentence given today, because prison is not the solution,” said a statement from the club and posted on Twitter. “The resolution of the conflict in Catalonia must come exclusively from political dialogue.”


Protests were staged across Catalonia after the verdicts were announced with activists from the region's two biggest grassroots pro-independence groups, the Catalan National Assembly (ANC) and Omnium Cultural, urging followers to rally in the evening.


The separatist movement is hoping the guilty verdicts will unite their divided ranks and bring supporters onto the streets.

"It is time to rise up against the authoritarian fascism of the Spanish state and its accomplices," tweeted the radical CDR, whose activists briefly blocked Barcelona's Sants station on Sunday and cut traffic on one of its main
streets.

"It is time for the #PopularRevolt."

"Democratic Tsunami", a newly formed group set up to coordinate the response, called on demonstrators to meet in Barcelona's Plaza Cataluna Monday afternoon, while the Catalan National Assembly (ANC) and Omnium Cultural, the region's two biggest grassroots pro-independence groups, have called an evening rally.

In the coming days, demonstrators will march from five towns towards Barcelona where they will congregate on Friday, when a general strike has been called.

There was outrage expressed from political leaders outside of Catalonia, notably Scotland which shares an independence struggle and has long shown solidarty with Catalonia

Nicola Sturgeon spoke out against the verdict: “Any political system that leads to such a dreadful outcome needs urgent change.”

While Scottish MP for Dunfermline & West Fife branded the verdict “a dark day for democracy”.

Clare Daly, an MEP from the Republic of Ireland was among those to call the sentence “shameful”.

Yanis Varoufakis, the former Greek minister of finance tweeted: "I have no right to comment on Catalan independence. It is for the Catalans to decide. BUT, the rest of us must rise up against politicians being sentenced to long prison stretches in the heart of Europe for pursuing political agendas mandated by voters."




 
Give the people their freedom.

This will happen more and more, and the globalists will crack down more and more.

people want control back of their own countries. Or they will try to go their own way.
 
Give the people their freedom.

This will happen more and more, and the globalists will crack down more and more.

people want control back of their own countries. Or they will try to go their own way.

Only a majority of a minority want separation. Literally everyone else does not want separation from Spain. It's constitutionally illegal and the Catalan parliament is completely dominated by these political elite who want it. The only ground that separatists stand on is that it may not seem democratically "legitimate" for the national government to give in to their demands.

This isn't really a globalist thing as you put it. It's a constitutional issue and also the fact that Catalonia is a huge part of their economy.

Article 2 of the Spanish Constitution reads as follows:

"The Consititution is based on the indissoluble unity of the Spanish Nation, common and indivisible homeland to all Spaniards, and recognises the right to autonomy of the nationalities and regions that make it up and solidarity amongst them.".
 
Give the people their freedom.

This will happen more and more, and the globalists will crack down more and more.

people want control back of their own countries. Or they will try to go their own way.

Please refrain from participating in any of my mega threads unless you've actually read it first to understand what it is about.

In the case of Catalonia, this is what the majority of the people want, not to mention what the pro-separatist regional Catalan government did two years ago was highly illegal under the their country's Constitution.
 
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Clashes erupt as Catalan independence protesters block airport



Protests have erupted in Barcelona after Spain's Supreme Court sentenced nine Catalan separatist leaders to between nine and 13 years in prison.

Thousands of demonstrators blocked road access to Barcelona's El Prat airport. More than 100 flights were cancelled. Riot police charged protesters, who threw rocks, cans and fire extinguishers, AFP news agency reported.

The separatist leaders were convicted of sedition over their role in an illegal independence referendum in 2017.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-e...catalan-independence-protesters-block-airport
 
Protests descend into chaos as crowds clash with police at Barcelona’s airport
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Riot police engaged in a running battle with angry protesters outside Barcelona’s airport on Monday after Spain’s Supreme Court convicted 12 separatist leaders of illegally promoting the wealthy Catalonia region’s independence and sentenced nine of them to prison.

Officers fired foam bullets and used batons against thousands of protesters who converged on the airport after the verdict was announced in Madrid. Protesters fought back by throwing objects, spraying dark clouds with fire extinguishers and breaking windows during clashes that lasted into the night. Regional emergency service SEM said 75 people were treated for injuries at Josep Tarradellas Barcelona-El Prat Airport. Spain’s airport operator, AENA, said at least 108 flights were cancelled.

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Police also clashed with angry crowds late on Monday night in downtown Barcelona. They used batons, and sounds similar to the firing projectiles were heard. Nine of the 12 Catalan politicians and activists were found guilty of sedition and given prison sentences of nine to 13 years. Four of them were additionally convicted of misuse of public funds.

The other three were fined for disobedience. The court barred all of them from holding public office.

All 12 were acquitted on the more serious charge of rebellion, which implied the use of violence, brought by state prosecutors and lawyers for the far-right Spanish party Vox.

Vox leader Santaigo Abascal criticised the verdict as too light.

Spain’s caretaker prime minister, Pedro Sanchez, said the outcome of the four-month trial proved the 2017 secession attempt had become “a shipwreck”. Mr Sanchez urged people to “set aside extremist positions” and “embark on a new phase” for Catalonia.

He said he hoped the prison sentences would mark a turning point in the long standoff between national authorities and separatist politicians in Barcelona, the Catalonia region’s capital.

Tempers flared after the Supreme Court issued its decision in Madrid, with secessionists taking to the streets, halting some trains by placing burning tyres and wood on tracks and blocking roads as well as the airport entrance. After he was sentenced to 13 years imprisonment, former regional vice-president Oriol Junqueras declared that achieving independence for Catalonia was “today closer than ever before”. But the Catalan separatist movement is going through its most difficult period in years. With a general election scheduled for November 10, the movement’s most charismatic leaders are behind bars or abroad after fleeing to avoid prosecution. The convicted Catalan leaders — most of whom were kept in custody on grounds of a flight risk for nearly two years before the verdict — have grown into powerful symbols for the separatists.

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Former regional president Carles Puigdemont, who fled to Belgium in October 2017 with several others when they were summoned to appear in court, said the upcoming general election was an opportunity to show “a massive response of rejection” for the court’s verdict and the “dignity and firmness” of the Catalan independence movements.

Mr Puigdemont spoke in Brussels hours after a Spanish Supreme Court judge issued an international warrant for his arrest.

Andrew Dowling, an expert on contemporary Spanish politics at Cardiff University in Wales, said the sentences were “going to make a bad situation worse”.

“It’s going to create a terrible wound in Catalan society until these people are released,” he said by telephone.

Catalan identity is a passionate issue in the northeastern region bordering France, but elsewhere it has failed to capture the public imagination and, crucially, lacked international support.

At the centre of the prosecutors’ case was an October 1, 2017 independence referendum that the Catalan Government held even though the country’s highest court had prohibited the vote.

The “yes” side won, but because it was an illegal ballot most voters didn’t turn out and the vote count was considered of dubious value. The Catalan Parliament, however, unilaterally declared independence three weeks later, triggering Spain’s worst political crisis in decades.

The Spanish Government stepped in and fired the Catalan regional government, with prosecutors later bringing charges.

Catalonia has authority to run its own prisons, unlike the rest of Spain’s regions. That means regional authorities can allow inmates to spend the night in prison from Monday-Thursday and have the rest of the time at home. Such a step for those convicted on Monday is open to legal challenges, however. “Today, they have violated all their rights. It is horrible that Europe doesn’t act,” 60-year-old civil servant Beni Saball said at a Barcelona street protest, referring to those convicted.

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But retired 73-year-old bank clerk Jordi Casares said he wasn’t surprised by the verdict.

“It is fair because they went outside the law,” he said, walking out of his home on a Barcelona street. “I hope that after a few days of tumult by the separatists the situation can improve.”

Spain’s caretaker foreign minister Josep Borrell, soon due to become the European Union’s top diplomat, urged an effort at political and social healing because the independence effort is doomed.

“There is no single constitution of Europe that provides the possibility of creating unilaterally the independence of a part of the territory,” he told The Associated Press.

In their ruling, the seven Supreme Court judges wrote that what the Catalan leaders presented as a legitimate exercise of the right to vote was in fact “bait” to mobilise citizens and place pressure on the Spanish Government to grant a referendum on independence.

The trial featured more than 500 witnesses, including former prime minister Mariano Rajoy and 50 nationally televised hearings.

Defence lawyers argued that the leaders of the secessionist movement were carrying out the will of roughly half of the 7.5 million residents of Catalonia who, opinion polls indicate, would like the region to be a separate country. The other half of Catalans who oppose independence say the secession question has monopolised local politics and caused friction between families and friends.

https://www.news.com.au/travel/trav...t/news-story/275e59f38fc04fe5cfa47cabd46f3c90
 
it will be funny if this guy is quickly extradited to his kind of crap country when the German prosecutors let rapists from the Middle East free to rape more because it’s I humane to extradite them in a timely fashion.
 
Clashes erupt as Catalan independence protesters block airport



Protests have erupted in Barcelona after Spain's Supreme Court sentenced nine Catalan separatist leaders to between nine and 13 years in prison.

Thousands of demonstrators blocked road access to Barcelona's El Prat airport. More than 100 flights were cancelled. Riot police charged protesters, who threw rocks, cans and fire extinguishers, AFP news agency reported.

The separatist leaders were convicted of sedition over their role in an illegal independence referendum in 2017.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-e...catalan-independence-protesters-block-airport


I don't see this ending well. Imprisoning dissident political leaders can easily invigorate rather than demoralize a movement. It also gives them time to slow down and think and organize their thoughts. See Nelson Mandela. Gandhi. Martin Luther King. Adolf Hitler.

Also, while the referendum was illegal, an anti-referendum law is a bad law. If you don't give dissatisfied groups an outlet for expressing their frustration, they will create one themselves, and that typically looks less friendly than a vote.

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Protests Rock Spain's Catalonia Region But Residents Are Divided Over Independence
October 19, 2019

Peaceful marches, a general strike and violent unrest have convulsed Catalonia, in northeastern Spain, this week after a group of Catalan leaders received long prison sentences.

On Monday, Spain's Supreme Court convicted 12 politicians and prominent activists for their part in a 2017 push to declare Catalonia an independent republic. Nine of the leaders, including the former vice president of the Catalan government, were sentenced to between nine and 13 years in prison for sedition. Four of them also were charged with misuse of public funds.

Yet while many Catalans are outraged at the central government in Madrid for the harsh crackdown on the independence movement, the huge demonstrations have obscured deep divisions in Catalan society.

In an official survey in July, more than 48% of respondents said they did not want Catalonia to become an independent state, compared with 44% in favor.

Just a 20-minute metro ride from the unrest downtown in Catalonia's capital city of Barcelona, the working-class neighborhood of Nou Barris has a somewhat different mood. It has hardly any pro-independence flags hanging from balconies and few of its residents are seen wearing the yellow ribbon that supporters of the jailed leaders have pinned to their clothes.

"Catalonia belongs to Spain," says Sara Pérez, 62, sitting on a park bench in Nou Barris, waiting for her grandson to get out of boxing class. "I consider myself Catalan, although the way things are going, each day a little less."

the biggest share. Its leaders have long sought greater autonomy for the community.

In October 2017, Catalonia held a referendum on whether to become an independent republic, but Spain banned it and deployed national police to prevent voting. Forty-three percent of voters turned up and chose independence by 90%. The Catalan parliament voted to declare independence.

These momentous events were a painful chapter for many Spaniards who reject Catalonia's claim to sovereign statehood, but also for the many Catalans who watched Spanish authorities aggressively block voters, arrest the referendum organizers and ultimately take full control of the regional government.

Catalan President Carles Puigdemont and several others fled to Belgium to avoid arrest. Puigdemont faces possible extradition proceedings after Spain issued a European arrest warrant for him.

This week, Quim Torra, who became Catalonia's president in May 2018, has taken a defiant stance after the court verdict: He is pushing for another independence referendum.

"If they convict us to 100 years for going to the polls for self-determination, then the response is clear: Self-determination should be put back on the ballot," he said to Catalan parliament on Thursday.

Much of Catalonia is critical of both the Spanish and Catalan governments. Lola García, a 49-year-old taking an afternoon stroll with her daughter in Nou Barris, on the outskirts of Barcelona, says both sides are in desperate need of dialogue with each other, but neither is taking the first step.

"If the independence referendum would have been organized better, if they would have negotiated something with Madrid, I would have participated," says García, who doesn't support the independence movement. "We have the right to demand a vote on independence."

According to a poll in September, around 70% of respondents in Catalonia favored holding a referendum, as long as it's carried out legally.

Sohail Jannessari, a political science researcher at Barcelona's Pompeu Fabra University, says rather than engaging in dialogue, Spain has historically suppressed independence movements — and that has made the movement's supporters angrier.

"In essence, the whole process of the Catalan independence movement has been a massive mobilization to do civil disobedience against the Spanish state," says Jannessari.

This week, many protesters were triggered by what they view as harsh sentences. For example, two of those convicted, Jordi Cuixart and Jordi Sànchez, the heads of grassroots groups that organized pro-independence protests, were sentenced to nine years in prison for sedition.

"It's a very outdated crime to happen in a Western democracy in the 21st century," Jannessari says. "Based on the interpretation of the Spanish law, yes, it's illegal to hold a referendum on independence of a region. But they could've used other offenses to convict them."

 
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I'm curious if the separatist hype in Catalonia has had any effect on the Basque region at all?
 
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