Can we give some props to Ngannous chin and heart???

He did well all things considered. Raw power and athleticism can only you get you so far if you lack training/experience.
 
He has heart for sure..he got up for every round but he needs a complete rework , i sugguest taking some time off before fighting again and lean out abit and round out his game..he has gaps in his game not holes..that need to be fixed
 
He has a crazy good chin i Wanna c him against Hunt
 
fightfan84 said:
lol one doesn't have to have anything to do with the other. You can still respect the mans heart and chin without drinking all the Kool-Aid DW spit out before the fight.
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I watch sports from rugby, boxing, hockey to tennis or soccer.

I've never seen a professional athlete gas in a few minutes and be praised for hanging in there.

Perhaps it's a cultural difference, nevermind.
 
KeepItRealist said:
Yeah. He took some really big right hands from Stipe and took them really well. He has a good chin.

Stipe too took several big shots from Ngannou and didn't go down.

And I give him credit for not quitting, but I still think Stipe could have finished him anytime starting at the end of the second if had really worked for a RNC rather than just trying to exhaust and control Ngannou. Or if he had started wailing on him like he did Hunt in the same position.
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I agree. He wasn't willing to risk losing position/control by attempting to get hooks in. I would've liked to see him do a little more, especially front headlock type chokes, but if I had to feel the consequences of Ngannou on top of me, I'd have held on for dear life too.
 
Chagaev said:
If they're selling you someone as a one in a million/ phenomenal athlete/ hardest hitter in the World etc. and you end up happy that at least he wasn't KTFO and didn't quit on the stool, then you've been scammed and you deserved it.
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It's not that I was sold anything or tricked into thinking he was the best ever. It was the first time he faced some real adversity that he couldn't overcome. A lot of fighters fold when things don't go their way.

Edit- He also showed a hell of a chin, which is something we didn't really know much about.
 
Found the pics of his chin and heart

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Ngannou showed immense heart and chin during the fight. The dude was gassed 2 minutes into the fight yet still didn't give up. They need to get this guy's cardio up, maybe lose 6-7 pounds and also get him some legit wrestlers to train with. He can easily become HW champ in a year from now.
 
MusterX said:
I'll have to go back and watch but Stipe seemed really tired as well, it took everything he had to wear Ngannou down to the point where Ngannou couldn't move anymore.
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Stipe has good cardio for a HW, but he’s no Cain Velasquez.

Stipe is very lucky if he doesn’t face Cain in his next two fights.
 
yup

Frances is one of the toughest mofos I ever seen, he gassed so badly yet still wouldn't quit and his chin is like a granite slab, Stipe was hitting him flush and he still couldnt put this guy out.

If Frances only took his training serious and worked on jiu jitsu more and conditioning he would be a beast

his weak arm punches were snapping Stipes head back pretty bad, imagine if Frances wasnt gassed and got full leverage on those shots?
 
He doesn't need props, he needs actual tools! THIS AIN'T NO MOVIE.
 
I was showing a friend of mine the fight because he's from close to where Ngabuttabeekou is from and he was constantly asking why he doesn't get up while Stipe was on top of him.

I simply told him that he doesn't know how to.

Then this guy, who doesn't watch MMA at all, asked me:

Why is he fighting the champion if he doesn't even know how to get up?

I didn't know what to tell him.
 
Summoning said:
Lay in the ground while Stipe was resting is not Heart.
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This.

He didn't literally quit, but he gave up. He wasn't even trying to get up at a certain point he just laid there while Stipe laid there. Effectively spooning.
 
PalmStrike said:
I was showing a friend of mine the fight because he's from close to where Ngabuttabeekou is from and he was constantly asking why he doesn't get up while Stipe was on top of him.

I simply told him that he doesn't know how to.

Then this guy, who doesn't watch MMA at all, asked me:

Why is he fighting the champion if he doesn't even know how to get up?

I didn't know what to tell him.
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Because MMA is a shallow sport where the gap between top end talent and the rest of the field is fucking embarrassingly massive. (at least in higher weight classes. Lower weight classes seem to be flourishing)

We have no contenders for DC or Stipe right now lmao.
 
I'd be more impressed if he had the heart to train to be a fighter and not a gassed out bodybuilder with beach muscles. But I guess that's what happens when the UFC hype machine gets behind you with all its yes men.
 
yeah that's probably one of the only good things i took way from that fight, at least ngannou seems to have a hell of a chin.
 
Ngannou was as frightening as ever, and has nothing to be ashamed of in his perfomance.

However, he's not going to get an accurate or object reaction to his performance, because of the amateurish way the UFC promoted the fight. They promoted it like a friggin squash match, with fucktard stats about 100,000 units and Ford Escorts. I swear they actually keep forgetting this is real fighting and you cannot script a win for your chosen champ.
 
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