i guess i should explain what I meant somewhat. Dempsey started fighting in the streets/bars, no trainer or anything he claimed that you either fought hard or got ran out of a place. I don't believe he ever had trainers during these early stages. I still believe that great talent/hardwork/good instincts will often trump an average talent with great teaching anytime. You can teach a boy how to jab but if he has no talent for it, his jab will always be useless. I guess I should say that personally, I just got tired of all these power brokers, be they "coaches", "teachers", "managers" or whatever you want to call them. They love to mystify things and make it seem like only they have the secret. It's a sick mentality and a lot of game playing and ass kissing is involved. Not wanting that stilted me in important ways but I still feel I was right. I remember taking Wing Chun and someone saying "chi sao takes 20 years to master" and I thought "what's the point of mastering something so useless?" well, that mindset and the power playing that goes on is all to common with teachers of all kinds. I think it's largely bull, sorry for any hurt feelings. A couple pros that i've been around have said things like "if you've been in a real fight, it's like being in 5 contested fights" Now, that's true relatively speaking but of course it's all in the what each of those fights was. At any rate, they have the right idea and that is that doing beats all the other crap anytime. That's not to say there isn't a lot to learn, if I ever have the cash, i'll pick up where i left off with my grappling but I wasn't going to go along with anymore of the ego mongering teachers i was around, it turns my stomach.
