All these years later and people still refuse to admit that Chris Weidman was better than Anderson Silva

[BearGrounds]

Still one of the biggest wins (in every way), ever.

You don't get to even have that, without someone as amazing as Anderson was. Must have been ridiculous to witness in person.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Anderson was around the same age then that Chris is now.....

 

[mraa1]

Silva beat Yushin Okami, Chael Sonnen (they fought twice), and Dan Henderson rather easily. He is not "susceptible" to good wrestlers.

Also, Chael Sonnen is a better wrestler than Weidman. So it's not like Weidman is just Chael Sonnen with striking.

Second, you can use this logic and say that because Weidman was knocked out by inferior strikers he would get knocked out by Silva. It's the exact same logic.

He absolutely did not beat Chael easily the first time. He even lost some of the striking exchanges, Chael even managed to knock him off balance a couple times. Weidman may not be a better wrestler but he is a better striker and a far better mixed martial artist who can chain his striking and wrestling way more effectively than Chael ever could. The results of the Anderson fights prove that

 

[NoStoneUnturned]

Doesn't matter, in another ten years Weidman will simply be the guy that Anderson Silva broke his leg against, while Anderson will continue to be an MMA legend.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

He absolutely did not beat Chael easily the first time. He even lost some of the striking exchanges, Chael even managed to knock him off balance a couple times. Weidman may not be a better wrestler but he is a better striker and a far better mixed martial artist who can chain his striking and wrestling way more effectively than Chael ever could. The results of the Anderson fights prove that

I did not say he beat Chael easily the first time.

The reason why the rematch is important is because I believe Silva said his knees were messed up when he fought Chael the first time (ditto with Travis Lutter). I recall hearing that right after the first fight, before anyone knew how the rematch would go. Considering how he beat Chael in the 2nd fight it gives more credit to the excuse (and he won the first one anyway, he didn't have much of a reason to lie).

Silva has fought guys with good takedowns before and has beat them. They usually can't take him down or can only do it for one round. Maia, Sonnen (2nd fight to be specific), Okami, Henderson are four guys with legit takedowns.

Silva vs Sonnen 1 is the only type he really struggled. But Sonnen is a specialist though, so it isn't really a sign of weakness if Chael Sonnen can ride you out for a decision.

Silva might not have stellar wrestling, but he is still incredibly fast, his reflexes are even better than his speed, and he has knockout power in "8 limbs". Not to mention even if you get him down you can't really submit him and his chin is granite, you have to opt for a decision win, and secure at least 5 takedowns (probably more).


It's not a promise at all that Weidman can take him down and ride him out.

 

[arcadeperfect]

Just because you dethrone a champion, it doesn't mean automatically get his accolades.

 

[kingmob6]

He took the fight seriously twice and still lost. He was almost knocked out in the rematch then got his leg snapped in half

did you see the first fight? he definitely didn't take chris seriouisly. He was monkeying around like there was some bum infront of him.

 

[ipowerslapmywife]

did you see the first fight? he definitely didn't take chris seriouisly. He was monkeying around like there was some bum infront of him.

He took it seriously, he was facing an undefeated wrestler. Why are you acting like he doesn’t clown and showboat every fight, that was his game to make his opponents get careless

 

[kingmob6]

He took it seriously, he was facing an undefeated wrestler. Why are you acting like he doesn’t clown and showboat every fight, that was his game to make his opponents get careless

you are stuck on this idea and dead stuck on proving everyone wrong. That much of clowning around and disrespect...it wasn't common even for the spider,, may be it was his gameplan to get chris out of his element, but that was blatant disrespect he was showing...not sure how that's arguable.

 

[YesForGayJesus]

did you see the first fight? he definitely didn't take chris seriouisly. He was monkeying around like there was some bum infront of him.

He was terrified of Weidman and was tryin

you are stuck on this idea and dead stuck on proving everyone wrong. That much of clowning around and disrespect...it wasn't common even for the spider,, may be it was his gameplan to get chris out of his element, but that was blatant disrespect he was showing...not sure how that's arguable.

Silva spent the first round on his back and got flash ko'ed at one point. He was incredibly flustered and went overboard in an attempt to get Weidman to over commit. Unfortunately for him it backfired.

 

[Mesos]

The stone cold facts are that Chris Weidman beat Anderson Silva twice in brutal fashion and effectively ended him as a top fighter. If these were any other two fighters people would have no problem admitting that tif fighter A destroys fighter B twice then fighter A is undoubtedly the better fighter.

But I still see people all these years later casting doubt on what should be obvious and undebatable.

So let's put this nonsense to bed once and for all by making a definitive statement: Anderson Silva is the greater (in terms of all time rankings) fighter but Chris Weidman is the better fighter (in terms of H2H combat).

Silva had the better championship title defenses but skill wise, yeah Wiedman was more well rounded. He mixed things up better and can be considered a proper mma fighter. While Silva was more of a striker with good wrestling defense. Both great champs but Silva is considered more impressive because of how long his title run was. Plus he has a good highlight reel with alot of Knockouts.

 

[kingmob6]

He was terrified of Weidman and was tryin


Silva spent the first round on his back and got flash ko'ed at one point. He was incredibly flustered and went overboard in an attempt to get Weidman to over commit. Unfortunately for him it backfired.

flash koed? you sure you were watching the same fight I was?

weidman spent like 1:30 trying to ground & pound, silva stood up, stuffed his takedowns attemps, even went to the fence inviting him in....he was playing with him at that point. it's like we were watching 2 completely different fights.

 

[YesForGayJesus]

flash koed? you sure you were watching the same fight I was?

weidman spent like 1:30 trying to ground & pound, silva stood up, stuffed his takedowns attemps, even went to the fence inviting him in....he was playing with him at that point. it's like we were watching 2 completely different fights.

Given his eyes rolled up and he stiffened for a split second, yes he was flash ko'ed.

It's also worth mentioning there's a probability Weidman could have ended the fight in the first round when he had full mount had he not transitioned to a leg lock that had Silva grimacing in pain.

Silva just didn't have much for Weidman. It's as simple as that.