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Discussion in 'Dieting / Supplement Discussion' started by kelikallinn, May 6, 2008.

  1. kelikallinn

    kelikallinn Orange Belt

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    How old do you have to be to take ZMA? I'm 17 and bought Adam's from Now yesterday but just went whondering if it does some harm to me, some of the % of daily values on it just seemed ridicilus and i peed neon green after taking them yesterday.
     
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    Cydewynder20 Green Belt

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    I always take ZMA before bed, so I'm not sure how it effects my urine color. If my pee is neon green first thing in the morning, well that's normal.

    I'm no expert, but I don't think there's any particular reason why you can't take ZMA at the age of 17. Although you're so full of test right now it might not even be neccessary.

    (It's worth it just for the freaky dreams, though :D )
     
  3. kelikallinn

    kelikallinn Orange Belt

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    Haha yes my dream tonight was amazing :D
    And i dont think my test lvls are that high so it shouldn't do any dmg taking it. Just wanted to be sure :p
     
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    Cydewynder20 Green Belt

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    What I meant was that in your teenage years, your testosterone levels are higher than at any other time of your life, henc there may not be a need to boost it.

    Also they say many athletes are deficient in zinc, so it may not be a bad idea on that front.
     
  5. IMO you're too young to be worrying about zma, or any other supps for that matter (except whey). Enjoy you're naturally high ****bolism and eats lots of good food, plenty of time for supps later on.
     
  6. why is ****bolism starred out?
     
  7. m-e-t-a-b-o-l-i-s-m
     
  8. ronin0352

    ronin0352 Lift, Eat, Sleep, Repeat

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    I disagree to an extent. I think ZMA isn't a bad one to be taking regardless. What's wrong with getting more zinc, magnesium and B vitamins, especially if he's an athlete? Also, I wouldn't think there's anything wrong with a 17 y/o taking fish oil or a good multi-vitamin either.

    I do agree in the sense that he doesn't need a giant mixing bowl full of supps that he takes on a daily basis, but supplementing certain things are not all that bad are they?
     
  9. Sinister

    Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Supplementation depends solely on what a person is getting or not getting from food, period. Not age. A person of 17 can be eating like shit, or not have access to a wide variety of food to cover nutritional needs that apply to level of physical activity, and depriving oneself of said nutrients because of a SINGLE year from idealistic childhood to adulthood, is just plain silly.

    That said, ZMA doesn't increase testosterone anyway. So that's a non-factor.
     
  10. hey agreed, I was talking more about the hydroxycuts and no-explodes of the world. ZMA increases acne, I had breakouts when i tried it in my early 20's, I'm not sure it's worth dealing with. It just seems that the ts is worried about the supp and imo, should just not take it. What's the use of trying to boost ur test when ur at an age where ur hormones are raging anyways? Like i said, plenty of time to stress about supps later, enjoy the progress that youth provides naturally.
     
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    Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    ZMA does not boost testosterone.
     
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    ronin0352 Lift, Eat, Sleep, Repeat

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    Are you sure it's the ZMA? I've not heard this, although to be fair, I am also pretty new to a lot of this stuff, but I've actually noticed less acne. That could just be that I've greatly cleaned up my diet as well, though.

    I don't take it to boost test, and from what I've read the studies that said it did, mainly seemed to mention it as an insignificant amount, & more as a side effect if anything. At least that's the impression I got.

    I take it along with GABA as a sleep aid because I rarely get a significant amount of sleep, so I try to make the most of the sleep I do get.

    KK, does this sound about right or am I way off here?
     
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    Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    The studies that conclude ZMA boosted testosterone were bought and published by BALCO, the original makers of ZMA. In non-biased University studies, it doesn't boost testosterone at all. Zinc on it's own helps keep testosterone levels from depleting during strenuous activity, which isn't remotely the same as boosting testosterone.

    ZMA is a good supplement for recovery, because of the muscle relaxing effects of magnesium, zinc's viability to MAINTAINING test levels during strenuous activity, and it's immune system functions.

    So no, not way off.
     
  14. ronin0352

    ronin0352 Lift, Eat, Sleep, Repeat

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    Good info as always. Thank you sir.
     
  15. lol...I know it may not work, but it is marketed as a something used to increase strength and/or muscle mass. I doubt the ts (we'd have to ask him) is using zma to get a better nights sleep or boost his immune system.
     
  16. wOg

    wOg Burien Top Team

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    I just make my own ZMA by buying the minerals separately.

    30 mg zinc
    50 mg Vitamin B-6 (pyridoxine)
    500 mg potassium & magnesium aspartate

    I take it for the depth of sleep you get, which is absolutely incredible, IMO. I don't always get the crazy dreams. But my sleep is more restful and deep than ever.
     
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    Sinister Doctor of Doom Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    So? Now he knows what it's good for. What he bought it for and what it's marketed for are irrelevant. If it doesn't do what some people think, it just doesn't. Better to know the truth.
     
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    ronin0352 Lift, Eat, Sleep, Repeat

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    I didn't even realize that it was marketed that way. I learned about it here, so I only thought of it as something to help you get better quality sleep, thereby helping recovery.
     
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    zma is just vitamin b6 zinc and magnesium, zinc and magnesium are normally lower in active people because of current diets and the fact that athletes burn these minerals more rapidly, and b6 before sleep stimulates rem sleep which is considered the best for recover,
     
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    I sleep very well on ZMA, which is why I take it.
     

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